1 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:16,530 [Music] 2 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:41,010 well hello and welcome to the show this 3 00:00:46,620 --> 00:00:43,570 is Martin Willis your host and we are 4 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:46,630 without Alejandro Rojas this week and 5 00:00:52,650 --> 00:00:48,250 next week he's going to be on a UFO 6 00:00:55,049 --> 00:00:52,660 cruise I believe my guest tonight is all 7 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:55,059 the way from Hong Kong it's it's 8 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:56,530 actually we're doing time travel he's 9 00:01:02,100 --> 00:00:59,050 tomorrow early in the morning I believe 10 00:01:04,259 --> 00:01:02,110 right now and as Dan Heath Heath likes 11 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:04,269 to be called Chuck so we're gonna call 12 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:06,850 him Chuck I'll ask him to pronounce his 13 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:09,130 name properly on the show when he's on 14 00:01:13,860 --> 00:01:11,190 he'll be up in just one minute here and 15 00:01:16,820 --> 00:01:13,870 just a little just a little housekeeping 16 00:01:19,890 --> 00:01:16,830 for everyone first of all in YouTube 17 00:01:22,020 --> 00:01:19,900 during the breaks I found that I've 18 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:22,030 talked a lot of guests and people have 19 00:01:26,219 --> 00:01:23,350 actually said they would really like to 20 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,229 have a break so I'm going to accommodate 21 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:28,720 that coming up starting on this show so 22 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:30,790 during the break it'll be a real break 23 00:01:36,179 --> 00:01:33,369 over at YouTube as well so just like 24 00:01:37,889 --> 00:01:36,189 just like a real show a real break so 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:37,899 just hang in there that when that break 26 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:41,770 comes up and we are ready to bring in my 27 00:01:44,639 --> 00:01:43,119 guest I think that's it I do want to 28 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:44,649 thank everyone that helps support the 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:48,880 show and also jump over to podcast UFO 30 00:01:53,399 --> 00:01:50,890 com there's a new blog I have a new blog 31 00:01:56,249 --> 00:01:53,409 writer I hope he just started wrote his 32 00:01:59,340 --> 00:01:56,259 first blog it's an opinion piece that's 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:01:59,350 up on the website podcast UFO calm 34 00:02:05,730 --> 00:02:02,170 alright welcome to the show Chuck how 35 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:05,740 are you hi good evening everyone 36 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:09,250 I good I'm good how are you good evening 37 00:02:15,630 --> 00:02:11,770 good morning to you it's early morning 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:15,640 for you right yeah it's a little cloudy 39 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:18,010 in the morning and Hong Kong here Wow 40 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:20,230 yeah hey thanks for thank you so much 41 00:02:23,250 --> 00:02:21,970 thank you so much for having me in the 42 00:02:26,130 --> 00:02:23,260 show oh oh yeah 43 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:26,140 my pleasure I've actually had some a 44 00:02:31,410 --> 00:02:28,570 couple people have said that they wanted 45 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:31,420 you up on the show and so I thought it 46 00:02:34,830 --> 00:02:32,560 would be a great idea to get a 47 00:02:36,839 --> 00:02:34,840 perspective but you told me something 48 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:36,849 really interesting when we talked last 49 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:39,519 night and that is how you learned 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:40,720 English 51 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:42,250 want you to tell the audience it's a 52 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:44,500 great how did you learn your your 53 00:02:52,650 --> 00:02:47,800 English is very good thank you thank you 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:52,660 so much is I actually I actually picked 55 00:02:58,470 --> 00:02:55,690 up my English by watching lethal weapon 56 00:03:00,450 --> 00:02:58,480 you need lethal weapon and you said 57 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:00,460 about four hundred times four hundred 58 00:03:07,170 --> 00:03:03,060 times more than four hundred times four 59 00:03:09,870 --> 00:03:07,180 doors movie and probably a couple of 60 00:03:13,199 --> 00:03:09,880 hundred times the second movie I just 61 00:03:15,810 --> 00:03:13,209 loved it so basically I actually pick up 62 00:03:20,130 --> 00:03:15,820 my English from Mel cubes and then Danny 63 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:20,140 Glover well you you have more of a moral 64 00:03:24,690 --> 00:03:22,600 vocabulary than the movies I'm sure but 65 00:03:25,949 --> 00:03:24,700 did you have an interest in learning you 66 00:03:30,449 --> 00:03:25,959 must have had an interest in learning 67 00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:30,459 English to begin with yeah well my mom 68 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:35,110 used to be a maid for an English lady 69 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:38,290 and I usually spend my summer holiday 70 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:41,260 with my mom when when you're working in 71 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:44,380 the house so that's how I pick up my 72 00:03:51,870 --> 00:03:48,959 interest about English uh-huh so then 73 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:51,880 yeah go ahead no no go ahead finish her 74 00:03:58,820 --> 00:03:54,310 finish her thoughts there and then and 75 00:04:00,990 --> 00:03:58,830 then I got really interested about it so 76 00:04:05,310 --> 00:04:01,000 I'm not a good student 77 00:04:07,979 --> 00:04:05,320 because I got I have dyslexia so that's 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:07,989 why I'm not a really pay attention on in 79 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:12,730 school and all that but then okay I have 80 00:04:18,449 --> 00:04:15,850 a chance that I lost my job and I spent 81 00:04:22,020 --> 00:04:18,459 four months sitting at home and doing 82 00:04:26,190 --> 00:04:22,030 nothing so I just simply pick up we 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:26,200 reach as tape in those days pick up a 84 00:04:31,710 --> 00:04:28,770 chest tape and just put it into a video 85 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:31,720 machine and play it and I don't even 86 00:04:35,820 --> 00:04:34,000 know what the movie is so I just play it 87 00:04:39,180 --> 00:04:35,830 and then I find out that's pretty cool 88 00:04:43,100 --> 00:04:39,190 movie and and then I later I find out 89 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:43,110 that was called leaf a weapon and then I 90 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:46,330 just I just love the movie I just love 91 00:04:52,830 --> 00:04:49,330 the area in the movie you know Los 92 00:04:54,530 --> 00:04:52,840 Angeles and the sunshine and totally 93 00:04:56,570 --> 00:04:54,540 totally forgot 94 00:04:59,890 --> 00:04:56,580 in love with the movie so I just watch 95 00:05:04,820 --> 00:04:59,900 it again and again and again and destroy 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:04,830 two wheelchairs tape and then I brought 97 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:08,010 an Audi I brought an Audi and then play 98 00:05:13,730 --> 00:05:10,320 it again and again again so I think 99 00:05:16,010 --> 00:05:13,740 maybe maybe maybe more than a little bit 100 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:16,020 more than 400 times and I keep watching 101 00:05:23,570 --> 00:05:17,910 it every year especially during 102 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:23,580 Christmas I remember every single script 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:29,100 in the movie I'm sure you do including 104 00:05:33,770 --> 00:05:32,010 what is this f-bomb movie over the 105 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:33,780 script everything I remember a whole 106 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:36,780 thing so people just play the movie and 107 00:05:41,420 --> 00:05:38,850 I don't have to watch it I just listen 108 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:41,430 to the scribe and know and I know which 109 00:05:50,780 --> 00:05:48,210 one they're playing movie one before now 110 00:05:53,660 --> 00:05:50,790 can you tell the listening audience how 111 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:53,670 you got your what major have an interest 112 00:05:57,710 --> 00:05:55,290 in UFOs to begin with you had a sighting 113 00:06:01,130 --> 00:05:57,720 when you were young right yeah when I 114 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:01,140 was 12 or 13 I mean I don't really 115 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:03,170 remember the age but it would should be 116 00:06:12,380 --> 00:06:08,340 13 I guess and we finished dinner like 117 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:12,390 7:30 at night and we we means me and my 118 00:06:18,530 --> 00:06:16,620 dad and my two of my sisters we went up 119 00:06:19,940 --> 00:06:18,540 to the rooftop of the building in Hong 120 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:19,950 Kong most of the people live in the 121 00:06:27,740 --> 00:06:22,440 buildings so I went up to the buildings 122 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:27,750 after after the dinner and we just hang 123 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:30,810 there we just did we don't really do 124 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:33,270 anything but my day usually just bring a 125 00:06:41,540 --> 00:06:36,600 paper newspaper and read it over there 126 00:06:42,860 --> 00:06:41,550 my sister they just playing toys in the 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:42,870 rooftop and myself 128 00:06:50,170 --> 00:06:47,010 so suddenly we saw something floating on 129 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:50,180 the opposite side of the mountain and 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:53,130 between the building and the mountains 131 00:07:01,910 --> 00:06:57,570 there is a row no there there taxi in 132 00:07:04,910 --> 00:07:01,920 there traffic's between the the mountain 133 00:07:07,910 --> 00:07:04,920 and the building so we look over star at 134 00:07:12,710 --> 00:07:07,920 the other side probably about 100 feet 135 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:12,720 way there's a a growing a growing ball I 136 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:14,970 mean I can't I cannot tell the size 137 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:18,990 because but but I think that's probably 138 00:07:26,690 --> 00:07:24,300 about the size of maybe a bowling maybe 139 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:26,700 a bowling maybe a basketball I know I 140 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:28,710 can't really tell the size but it was 141 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:31,440 floating and it's hovering and then it's 142 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:36,570 not making turns and all I can say it's 143 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:39,090 growing orange color but sometimes they 144 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:43,650 change to yellow and the bar itself is 145 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:46,350 seems like there's something moving 146 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:48,870 inside the ball but I don't know what 147 00:07:56,270 --> 00:07:51,240 that is so the best way I can describe 148 00:08:00,020 --> 00:07:56,280 it is when you stir a coffee or you when 149 00:08:03,710 --> 00:08:00,030 you stir a cappuccino with cream and 150 00:08:06,740 --> 00:08:03,720 then you see that that the texture no 151 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:06,750 stirring in inside the ball so that's 152 00:08:10,100 --> 00:08:08,400 all I can describe is something moving 153 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:10,110 in there but I don't know what it is but 154 00:08:17,420 --> 00:08:11,970 you change color sometimes from yellow 155 00:08:20,990 --> 00:08:17,430 to orange to red and then the flying 156 00:08:25,940 --> 00:08:21,000 pattern is I can say they change speeds 157 00:08:27,530 --> 00:08:25,950 because in making a circle pattern when 158 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:27,540 they when when they fly when did 159 00:08:32,090 --> 00:08:29,490 offering it seems like you're searching 160 00:08:34,430 --> 00:08:32,100 something so sometimes you fly faster 161 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:34,440 sometimes slow down a little bit 162 00:08:41,270 --> 00:08:37,110 and then sometimes it flies faster again 163 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:41,280 so I can't tell but it it you know some 164 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:44,850 in the middle of it turning it seems 165 00:08:50,510 --> 00:08:47,250 like it's going bigger so what we can 166 00:08:52,670 --> 00:08:50,520 tell is coming towards us but it's not 167 00:08:55,220 --> 00:08:52,680 really coming to all the way to us it 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:55,230 goes closer to us and then it's suddenly 169 00:09:00,920 --> 00:08:58,050 going far away again so I was kind of 170 00:09:04,850 --> 00:09:00,930 scared and I was turning my dare to 171 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:04,860 leave but my dad he was a policeman so 172 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:08,370 he basically just insists to stay in and 173 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:11,760 watch the thing because if you don't he 174 00:09:17,150 --> 00:09:14,280 doesn't know what it is as well so my 175 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:17,160 sister scares and we all four of us 176 00:09:22,130 --> 00:09:19,650 standing and the rooftop and watch it 177 00:09:25,699 --> 00:09:22,140 these things were like about 178 00:09:28,340 --> 00:09:25,709 probably few minutes probably five 179 00:09:30,980 --> 00:09:28,350 minutes or something and then it fly all 180 00:09:33,790 --> 00:09:30,990 the way behind and disappear behind the 181 00:09:37,579 --> 00:09:33,800 mountain and that's the first sighting 182 00:09:42,650 --> 00:09:37,589 and I got really interested about these 183 00:09:45,620 --> 00:09:42,660 subjects ever since 13 years old Wow 184 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:45,630 so that is an interesting saying now I 185 00:09:52,699 --> 00:09:47,570 have heard of people talk about 186 00:09:56,180 --> 00:09:52,709 sightings when their orbs or some type 187 00:09:58,940 --> 00:09:56,190 of like you know globular object and 188 00:10:01,699 --> 00:09:58,950 they have actually said that they also 189 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:01,709 saw something moving inside there's a 190 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:03,779 there's a story there's a really weird 191 00:10:12,590 --> 00:10:08,190 story and that I was told on this show 192 00:10:14,210 --> 00:10:12,600 where a woman gave this account to a UFO 193 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:14,220 researcher this is on one of my shows 194 00:10:19,220 --> 00:10:16,920 maybe a year or two ago that the 195 00:10:21,079 --> 00:10:19,230 researcher said that it was like an orb 196 00:10:23,889 --> 00:10:21,089 with something moving inside and all of 197 00:10:28,759 --> 00:10:23,899 a sudden it was a Bigfoot 198 00:10:32,139 --> 00:10:28,769 she said a Bigfoot you know it you know 199 00:10:35,030 --> 00:10:32,149 I mean of course you you you don't know 200 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:35,040 if there's any validity to a sighting 201 00:10:40,130 --> 00:10:36,810 like that or the person or anything like 202 00:10:42,889 --> 00:10:40,140 that this was a secondhand story but but 203 00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:42,899 I know there's more than one case that 204 00:10:47,540 --> 00:10:45,540 I've heard about the orbs that people 205 00:10:50,689 --> 00:10:47,550 say it looks like something inside or 206 00:10:52,340 --> 00:10:50,699 something moving which which is kind of 207 00:10:55,579 --> 00:10:52,350 fascinating that did the thing make any 208 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:55,589 sound that you're aware of no no sign 209 00:11:00,829 --> 00:10:57,690 you know it's totally silent and that's 210 00:11:04,670 --> 00:11:00,839 why my dad you know I remember I 211 00:11:07,220 --> 00:11:04,680 remember like few days after after the 212 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:07,230 sighting and my my I remember my dad 213 00:11:13,189 --> 00:11:10,800 mentioned this to my mom during probably 214 00:11:17,180 --> 00:11:13,199 dinner or something and he mentioned 215 00:11:19,370 --> 00:11:17,190 that the reason he feels weird this 216 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:19,380 thing weird because it's totally silent 217 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:22,050 and yeah remember my dad used to be a 218 00:11:29,870 --> 00:11:26,310 cop and he after all his training with 219 00:11:31,699 --> 00:11:29,880 helicopters and all these things so he 220 00:11:34,340 --> 00:11:31,709 supposedly know what that is what there 221 00:11:35,270 --> 00:11:34,350 was but no he doesn't even know what 222 00:11:40,130 --> 00:11:35,280 there was so 223 00:11:41,770 --> 00:11:40,140 you just feel weird it's not a is it 224 00:11:45,140 --> 00:11:41,780 something the family could talk about 225 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:45,150 afterwards or it says he didn't want to 226 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:49,020 talk about the UFO is a very we're 227 00:11:54,650 --> 00:11:52,980 subjects in Baghdad and so so my mind my 228 00:11:57,770 --> 00:11:54,660 dad basically just mentioned it to my 229 00:12:01,310 --> 00:11:57,780 mom but it's he doesn't really spend 230 00:12:03,860 --> 00:12:01,320 time to talk about it and I'm I am the 231 00:12:07,940 --> 00:12:03,870 one who can remember the whole thing 232 00:12:11,180 --> 00:12:07,950 after all these years my sister one of 233 00:12:14,930 --> 00:12:11,190 my sister kind of have a little little 234 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:14,940 memory but not a full memory of it so 235 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:16,710 I'm the only one who remembered whole 236 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:19,470 thing and and other sisters she totally 237 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:20,580 forgot about the whole thing 238 00:12:28,070 --> 00:12:23,840 and my dad might then have a bad stroke 239 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:28,080 many years ago so he I don't think you 240 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:29,910 remember anything and there's so many 241 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:32,100 thing to do worry about you know in all 242 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:35,640 these days people worry about work we 243 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:38,700 worry about leaving where we about a kid 244 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:40,730 so you have always the last thing they 245 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:44,370 always mentioned about yeah yeah well I 246 00:12:50,210 --> 00:12:46,410 I've said you know a number of times 247 00:12:53,270 --> 00:12:50,220 that you know the UFO topic isn't that 248 00:12:56,390 --> 00:12:53,280 big of a topic in general you know as 249 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:56,400 far as the average person day-to-day you 250 00:12:59,630 --> 00:12:58,050 know because of just what you said 251 00:13:02,390 --> 00:12:59,640 people worried about their job they're 252 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:02,400 worried about you know security money 253 00:13:08,210 --> 00:13:06,210 whatever it is and in space even or 254 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:08,220 anything to do with UFOs or anything 255 00:13:13,220 --> 00:13:11,850 like that is far from you know the first 256 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:13,230 thing on their mind unless of course 257 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:15,330 that they have an experience like you 258 00:13:21,350 --> 00:13:19,170 did you know and not everyone is gets 259 00:13:22,940 --> 00:13:21,360 interested in it also when they have an 260 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:22,950 experience either you know some people 261 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:24,870 just it was like one of your sisters 262 00:13:28,340 --> 00:13:26,910 that doesn't remember anything there 263 00:13:30,980 --> 00:13:28,350 some people don't remember some people 264 00:13:33,170 --> 00:13:30,990 never want to talk about it but but you 265 00:13:35,420 --> 00:13:33,180 have gone the other way and you've had a 266 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:35,430 lot of interests in it and you're you're 267 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:39,210 actually kind of a UFO guy a known UFO 268 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:43,110 guy over there in China aren't you know 269 00:13:49,020 --> 00:13:47,250 which is a big place I'm Hong Kong or 270 00:13:51,390 --> 00:13:49,030 Beijing Hong Kong 271 00:13:54,450 --> 00:13:51,400 Hong Kong in Hong Kong and China you're 272 00:13:56,610 --> 00:13:54,460 running two different system even I mean 273 00:13:58,770 --> 00:13:56,620 Hong Kong belongs to China these days 274 00:14:01,590 --> 00:13:58,780 but we are running to a totally 275 00:14:04,530 --> 00:14:01,600 different culture different system and 276 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:04,540 we actually in Hong Kong we actually 277 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:07,510 grow up with Western culture we have 278 00:14:13,650 --> 00:14:11,410 chips we have chips in TV we have six 279 00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:13,660 million dollars man in TV and all that 280 00:14:20,970 --> 00:14:16,510 so so we actually grow up with a lot of 281 00:14:22,950 --> 00:14:20,980 American or western culture in here so 282 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:22,960 that's why we think different we talk 283 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:25,150 different the way we do things is also 284 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:29,050 also different Hong Kong China is a big 285 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:29,650 place 286 00:14:36,390 --> 00:14:32,530 there's so many UFO researchers in China 287 00:14:40,470 --> 00:14:36,400 and so many UFO cases abduction cases 288 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:40,480 and all these in China Hong Kong Hong 289 00:14:48,150 --> 00:14:45,130 Kong we have a big really huge famous 290 00:14:51,030 --> 00:14:48,160 case in one of one of the village in 291 00:14:54,300 --> 00:14:51,040 Hong Kong here with a big mothership 292 00:14:57,540 --> 00:14:54,310 more than like more than probably few 293 00:15:00,180 --> 00:14:57,550 thousand of Hong Kong people SOI and it 294 00:15:02,790 --> 00:15:00,190 lands is not really land but hovering on 295 00:15:07,470 --> 00:15:02,800 the top of the building during about 296 00:15:09,420 --> 00:15:07,480 6:00 p.m. or 7:00 p.m. at night so it's 297 00:15:12,810 --> 00:15:09,430 supposed to be a lot of people who get 298 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:12,820 off work and get off the bus station 299 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:16,630 they have sighting but again UFO subject 300 00:15:22,470 --> 00:15:19,930 is really very minimal and all these 301 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:22,480 days I made all these date back then in 302 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:25,120 in Hong Kong people so much to have so 303 00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:26,350 many thing to worry about 304 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:28,980 so UFO is the last thing they worried 305 00:15:36,930 --> 00:15:33,250 China have many many cases but I I 306 00:15:39,570 --> 00:15:36,940 recently I find out the reason why the 307 00:15:42,630 --> 00:15:39,580 quest and culture people not like people 308 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:42,640 from England people from the states they 309 00:15:48,630 --> 00:15:46,080 have very difficulty to find the 310 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:48,640 information about UFO in China is 311 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:51,190 probably because the name of the places 312 00:15:58,170 --> 00:15:53,680 in the name of the witness they are they 313 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:58,180 are basically Jedi's name to foreigners 314 00:16:02,820 --> 00:16:00,160 so it's very difficult to remember it 315 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:02,830 very difficult in old places in all that 316 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:06,970 so desperate now you mentioned there are 317 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:09,670 a lot of cases and I'd like to go over 318 00:16:14,190 --> 00:16:12,430 that a bit we don't necessarily have to 319 00:16:17,190 --> 00:16:14,200 right now but one of the things that I 320 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:17,200 wanted to ask you tonight was in general 321 00:16:20,370 --> 00:16:18,610 now you say Hong Kong is totally 322 00:16:23,130 --> 00:16:20,380 different than the rest of China or it's 323 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:23,140 like its own separate little Western 324 00:16:29,009 --> 00:16:25,870 type situation going on there but as far 325 00:16:32,519 --> 00:16:29,019 as you know in general how is the UFO 326 00:16:35,699 --> 00:16:32,529 topic perceived in China what what does 327 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:35,709 what do the rest of China for the most 328 00:16:39,569 --> 00:16:36,880 part I'm talking about like the 329 00:16:42,030 --> 00:16:39,579 government and the average person when 330 00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:42,040 they pay attention to the UFO topic what 331 00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:44,350 is it what is that is it is it taken 332 00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:48,880 seriously oh that's that's an 333 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:51,760 interesting part because most of the 334 00:16:54,900 --> 00:16:53,410 people when I went to the state and 335 00:16:57,870 --> 00:16:54,910 people keep asking me about how the 336 00:17:00,060 --> 00:16:57,880 China government deal with the UFO cases 337 00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:00,070 are they dealing with that did they 338 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:03,700 cover up this is the cases or do they do 339 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:06,610 anything about I all I can say is China 340 00:17:13,549 --> 00:17:09,150 government is pretty open up to UFO 341 00:17:16,590 --> 00:17:13,559 subjects they basically treated as 342 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:16,600 science subjects no science scientific 343 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:21,130 subjects so yeah and as you know you you 344 00:17:25,710 --> 00:17:22,990 know at some of the website you can see 345 00:17:29,159 --> 00:17:25,720 from the office or website they will put 346 00:17:39,030 --> 00:17:29,169 the UFO subjects s one of the scientific 347 00:17:41,669 --> 00:17:39,040 research section uh-huh and do what 348 00:17:44,060 --> 00:17:41,679 about the military do they get involved 349 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:44,070 in any type of research yes 350 00:17:49,230 --> 00:17:47,200 military officials that policeman they 351 00:17:51,690 --> 00:17:49,240 all they all get involved into some of 352 00:17:56,370 --> 00:17:51,700 the research because we have a few cases 353 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,380 I mean a biggest huge less name in few 354 00:18:01,020 --> 00:17:58,240 few abduction cases you know the 355 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:01,030 researchers from Beijing when they do 356 00:18:05,070 --> 00:18:02,890 the research they they have a lot of 357 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:05,080 help they're not they got a lot of help 358 00:18:10,650 --> 00:18:07,570 from military you know from the military 359 00:18:14,370 --> 00:18:10,660 hospitals from the police department 360 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:14,380 from the government of different places 361 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:16,450 they are helping on 362 00:18:20,970 --> 00:18:18,940 the UFO research of course the research 363 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:20,980 that the report of the research they 364 00:18:27,210 --> 00:18:23,260 will send it up to the China government 365 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:27,220 or to the military not to the public but 366 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:29,500 at least they don't really cover that up 367 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:33,630 they don't say aliens are UFO faked 368 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:36,610 weather balloon no they don't do that 369 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:40,000 they actually report the cases on even 370 00:18:46,350 --> 00:18:42,730 on the office or TV station they 371 00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:46,360 reported on news as well so I think I 372 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:48,430 think China government under military 373 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:51,730 they actually take this UFO subject very 374 00:18:57,810 --> 00:18:54,850 seriously and I don't think they really 375 00:19:02,310 --> 00:18:57,820 cover up or suppress the information 376 00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:02,320 unless and Nantz is it in morphing to 377 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:04,780 like religion or all that thing and then 378 00:19:09,450 --> 00:19:06,790 they will they we would like to put a 379 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:09,460 stop on there and and what do you mean 380 00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:12,850 by that exactly and pertaining to 381 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:17,260 religion oh yeah that's you know when we 382 00:19:23,940 --> 00:19:21,160 talk about a UFOs for the China 383 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:23,950 government they we would like to stick 384 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:26,290 it into Scientifics like how the flies 385 00:19:31,410 --> 00:19:28,450 and what it were where they come from 386 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:31,420 and what's the purpose of it but you 387 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:34,510 know in UFO cases and a lot of abduction 388 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:40,330 cases that didn't walk into a change of 389 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:42,970 a personality you know people from a 390 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:47,770 normal farmer or a normal person and 391 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,410 then after deciding after all that they 392 00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:53,200 after all the the contact especially 393 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:55,270 with the alien they start changing to a 394 00:20:03,330 --> 00:19:57,970 spiritual person you know they start 395 00:20:06,180 --> 00:20:03,340 changing to more how can I hug how can I 396 00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:06,190 describe it you know they would change 397 00:20:10,020 --> 00:20:07,750 their their personality they'd probably 398 00:20:15,020 --> 00:20:10,030 become a wedge and they'd probably 399 00:20:18,210 --> 00:20:15,030 become very spiritual and talks about 400 00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:18,220 the information download to their brain 401 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:23,590 to the head and messages from the alien 402 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:26,410 and all that thing it becomes really 403 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:29,920 spiritual and China government maybe 404 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:33,730 I think recently I I have feeling they 405 00:20:38,790 --> 00:20:35,530 will they will put a stop in there 406 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:38,800 because they don't really want to 407 00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:41,650 involve into religion and they will they 408 00:20:48,180 --> 00:20:45,430 we treat it as a code as a how do I 409 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:48,190 explain because they call out like the 410 00:20:55,710 --> 00:20:53,440 code and they always make some example 411 00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:55,720 like like The Haven Gate and all that oh 412 00:20:59,250 --> 00:20:56,140 yeah 413 00:21:02,790 --> 00:20:59,260 couch and they are involved into alien 414 00:21:05,780 --> 00:21:02,800 and involve into UFOs right so that's 415 00:21:08,900 --> 00:21:05,790 why they they a little worried about it 416 00:21:13,170 --> 00:21:08,910 that's what I can see that's what I can 417 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:13,180 observe from the government then the 418 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:15,670 gesture they're doing the thing they're 419 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:18,670 writing so I think I think as long as 420 00:21:23,370 --> 00:21:20,830 you stick to the UFO technology and all 421 00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:23,380 that thinking you're fine but when you 422 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:25,900 involve into a spiritual development not 423 00:21:44,370 --> 00:21:38,460 well okay well okay sounds like a little 424 00:21:46,620 --> 00:21:44,380 bit of feedback here well anyway when 425 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:46,630 and you said that people had messages 426 00:21:52,890 --> 00:21:49,810 can you tell me what some of those 427 00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:52,900 messages were do happen to know what 428 00:21:57,810 --> 00:21:55,150 they said they were thinking that they 429 00:22:00,990 --> 00:21:57,820 were getting for a message that part 430 00:22:02,670 --> 00:22:01,000 really interest me because of some of 431 00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:02,680 the ones that I've heard in the past who 432 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:05,190 had any have any idea what they were 433 00:22:11,550 --> 00:22:08,710 well I can tell you a little example but 434 00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:11,560 before that I want to I want to say 435 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:13,630 something because that is there was what 436 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:16,570 I observed but may not be the real 437 00:22:23,130 --> 00:22:19,810 situation in China here after all I am 438 00:22:26,790 --> 00:22:23,140 just you researchers and I don't I I 439 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:26,800 have a little contact in to the insider 440 00:22:33,810 --> 00:22:30,730 but not not to the officials insider so 441 00:22:36,150 --> 00:22:33,820 put it this way whatever I can tell is 442 00:22:38,130 --> 00:22:36,160 probably what I can observe that's well 443 00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:38,140 that's that I mean that's all I can say 444 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:41,620 I I cannot represent all the UFO 445 00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:43,330 researchers and 446 00:22:52,290 --> 00:22:48,190 reports in there and a conclusion 447 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:52,300 okay and and then I never able to get 448 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:54,010 the conclusion from the office so 449 00:22:58,620 --> 00:22:56,890 because it's so it's so officers in the 450 00:23:00,960 --> 00:22:58,630 government they don't they don't release 451 00:23:05,180 --> 00:23:00,970 all these things they do research but 452 00:23:07,860 --> 00:23:05,190 they don't release it okay recently we 453 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:07,870 you know all these States and China 454 00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:10,690 government of China have a lot of UFO 455 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:13,350 conference or a lot of UFO lecture 456 00:23:18,990 --> 00:23:16,630 sometimes in Beijing sometimes in 457 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:19,000 different places and they have so many 458 00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:23,080 UFOs research society all Regina you 459 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:25,260 know every little town every little 460 00:23:30,330 --> 00:23:28,330 province have their research centers but 461 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:30,340 you have to remember this is a communist 462 00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:33,160 country right so you cannot just simply 463 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:36,070 start a group without a permission from 464 00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:39,550 the government so then on this party can 465 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:41,470 tell they're actually government allowed 466 00:23:48,090 --> 00:23:44,530 people to do the research especially the 467 00:23:50,910 --> 00:23:48,100 one of the biggest research societies in 468 00:23:53,550 --> 00:23:50,920 Beijing and in some of the abduction 469 00:23:57,450 --> 00:23:53,560 cases when the researchers going out for 470 00:24:01,260 --> 00:23:57,460 research they have they got help from 471 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:01,270 military but because when for example 472 00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:03,250 one of the case the guy is named child 473 00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:07,140 and he had abduction cases and he saw 474 00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:10,660 another person and under Chinese girls 475 00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:14,230 in the crowd itself so when he tried to 476 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:16,030 find somebody when he trying to find the 477 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:17,800 researchers the researchers was sent 478 00:24:24,570 --> 00:24:20,050 from Beijing and the researchers 479 00:24:27,570 --> 00:24:24,580 actually bring this guy child to do a 480 00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:27,580 body research body body test and make 481 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:30,160 sure he is okay and do the hypnosis all 482 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:32,050 these things are done in the military 483 00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:35,200 hospital really when if yes when they 484 00:24:42,170 --> 00:24:39,120 try to find the girl he saw in the graph 485 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:42,180 which is a Chinese girl but very sick so 486 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:44,890 they do something some kind of suggest 487 00:24:49,830 --> 00:24:47,020 show some kind of experiment on the girl 488 00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:49,840 and then release both of it and when 489 00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:52,360 this guy trying to find this girl it's 490 00:24:56,370 --> 00:24:54,160 not in the same time he's somewhere 491 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,380 really far really 492 00:25:01,710 --> 00:24:58,480 in a distance so when you're trying to 493 00:25:05,310 --> 00:25:01,720 find this girl they actually have the 494 00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:05,320 drawing on the girls the drawing was 495 00:25:10,350 --> 00:25:08,260 done by the police department so you can 496 00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:10,360 tell the government actually helping Wow 497 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:12,700 some of the insider actually tell ya 498 00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:14,650 some of the actually some of the insider 499 00:25:21,690 --> 00:25:18,430 actually actually told me the China 500 00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:21,700 government helping on the research but 501 00:25:26,130 --> 00:25:24,190 they don't admit it they just help and 502 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:26,140 then they got the report and that's it 503 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:29,050 all right well we have to we have to go 504 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:30,850 to break right now so we'll continue 505 00:25:36,330 --> 00:25:33,610 this on the other side of the break and 506 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:36,340 remember in YouTube you're going to see 507 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:38,860 a screen up and just hang in there we 508 00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:41,980 will be we'll be right back in just a 509 00:25:46,140 --> 00:25:44,080 few minutes this is Martin Willis and my 510 00:25:48,660 --> 00:25:46,150 guest is I never asked him how to 511 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:48,670 pronounce his last name Chuck Fey I 512 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:50,530 believe or something similar I'll ask 513 00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,360 him when he's back and we'll be right 514 00:25:57,420 --> 00:25:54,000 back after these messages 515 00:26:01,200 --> 00:25:57,430 hello and welcome back to the show I'm 516 00:26:04,340 --> 00:26:01,210 Martin Willis your host and we just 517 00:26:07,170 --> 00:26:04,350 before the break I was talking to chuck 518 00:26:10,290 --> 00:26:07,180 fey who is my guest and he was telling 519 00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:10,300 me about this story of that the police 520 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:12,480 department getting heavily involved and 521 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:16,930 helping this person figure out their UFO 522 00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:18,490 it sounds like an abduction case where 523 00:26:22,650 --> 00:26:19,780 they saw someone on the craft and they 524 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:22,660 actually did a detective like sketch it 525 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:26,490 sounds like is that right yes right no 526 00:26:33,150 --> 00:26:30,310 detective when you saw a criminal and 527 00:26:35,310 --> 00:26:33,160 you want to you only have the memory in 528 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:35,320 your brain so the policeman usually draw 529 00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:37,630 the face no draw the sketching on the 530 00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:40,000 face and then put it up on the TV and 531 00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:42,700 say we want this guy in right so that 532 00:26:48,570 --> 00:26:44,620 kind of drawing also done by the police 533 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:48,580 department in China during even in the 534 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:51,370 UFO research so you can tell you can 535 00:26:56,550 --> 00:26:53,590 tell government actually helped do a lot 536 00:26:58,110 --> 00:26:56,560 of helping on the researching that's 537 00:27:00,030 --> 00:26:58,120 that's pretty amazing that they would 538 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:00,040 take it that serious because I think of 539 00:27:05,850 --> 00:27:02,860 all of what happens in the UFO field 540 00:27:08,940 --> 00:27:05,860 that the abduction thing is the one that 541 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,950 I would believe in this country would be 542 00:27:14,910 --> 00:27:10,000 taking take 543 00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:14,920 the least amount of with seriousness you 544 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:18,580 know I do believe that I don't think 545 00:27:23,150 --> 00:27:20,650 there's any cases whatsoever that we've 546 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:23,160 had here that involving abductions were 547 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:25,330 you know our Police Department got 548 00:27:29,850 --> 00:27:27,370 involved that I'm aware of except for 549 00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:29,860 the famous ones that you know of like 550 00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:31,540 Travis Walton the police department's 551 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:33,100 knowing that involved in that but not in 552 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:35,470 the way that you're talking about they 553 00:27:40,530 --> 00:27:38,770 can and also the police department they 554 00:27:43,530 --> 00:27:40,540 don't believe in the first place right 555 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,540 yeah so the usually thing guys lying the 556 00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:45,520 guys do something like trough as well 557 00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:49,390 and the police even think they murder 558 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:53,320 him right so so I'm gonna put it this 559 00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:55,810 way abduction cases in all places all 560 00:28:01,530 --> 00:27:58,270 the countries they treated seriously but 561 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:01,540 they just the matter of they tell you to 562 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:03,610 do result or they tell you they're so 563 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:05,710 serious about it 564 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:08,080 Hong Kong is no different China is no 565 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:10,300 different I think they treated really 566 00:28:15,210 --> 00:28:12,370 seriously and they even reported on the 567 00:28:19,410 --> 00:28:15,220 news remember again this is companies 568 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:19,420 country the TV stations also own the TV 569 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:21,370 station the radio station both of them 570 00:28:28,110 --> 00:28:24,310 are also owned by government so they 571 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:28,120 allowed it to report on the news to the 572 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:30,610 public so you can imagine how how 573 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:33,250 serious they they treat this kind of 574 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:36,490 matter you know I'm surprised I'm 575 00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:40,000 actually surprised that they take it 576 00:28:45,510 --> 00:28:41,440 serious like you mentioned you know it's 577 00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:45,520 a communist country it's also you know 578 00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,600 state-owned media like you're saying and 579 00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:51,600 they actually take it serious enough to 580 00:28:56,550 --> 00:28:54,580 actually talk about it when actually you 581 00:28:58,890 --> 00:28:56,560 don't have a lot of freedom of speech in 582 00:29:06,050 --> 00:28:58,900 general there do you I mean can you even 583 00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:06,060 talk about that it's getting better 584 00:29:11,310 --> 00:29:09,910 these days but before you know all these 585 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:11,320 abduction cases we are talking about 586 00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:15,670 like 70s like 80s so the the mind the 587 00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:17,740 mindset is still pretty pretty much 588 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:20,980 closing I mean not like these days this 589 00:29:27,810 --> 00:29:24,130 day China is like a like 590 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:27,820 but like international countries to 591 00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:29,410 everybody right you can see big 592 00:29:34,650 --> 00:29:31,600 buildings you can see a lot of people 593 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:34,660 using iPhone people using smart phones 594 00:29:41,310 --> 00:29:39,760 and computers and all this stuff but you 595 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:41,320 can't you also think about it you know 596 00:29:46,590 --> 00:29:44,169 all these even on the Cold War that the 597 00:29:49,890 --> 00:29:46,600 Russia and they also very interested 598 00:29:51,630 --> 00:29:49,900 about UFO subjects as well so I think I 599 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:51,640 think China governments always 600 00:29:58,500 --> 00:29:55,600 interested about it and one of the one 601 00:30:01,950 --> 00:29:58,510 of the example I can tell is one of the 602 00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:01,960 government's satellite launching center 603 00:30:07,890 --> 00:30:05,919 I owned by the government of course they 604 00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:07,900 launched the satellite they launched the 605 00:30:15,870 --> 00:30:11,980 rocket they launched the craft to travel 606 00:30:18,090 --> 00:30:15,880 the moon that launching center outside 607 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:18,100 of the launching center they have a few 608 00:30:27,390 --> 00:30:25,120 state you if you are a before you enter 609 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:27,400 to the center itself you know this 610 00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:29,770 usually when you watch the movies the 611 00:30:36,870 --> 00:30:33,070 statue usually like like a hero's like 612 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:36,880 like the rock lion but they have a few 613 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:39,490 grades egging and grades with Chinese 614 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:42,610 traditional dress as a state to outside 615 00:30:49,529 --> 00:30:46,080 of the satellite launching center so 616 00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:49,539 they open up they pretty open up to the 617 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:52,750 subjects they don't think alien they 618 00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:55,030 don't think you have a faith they 619 00:31:01,130 --> 00:30:58,720 believe I think they believe in UFOs and 620 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:01,140 they believe in their the life outside 621 00:31:06,539 --> 00:31:04,690 the earth and we are not alone but it's 622 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:06,549 just a matter of they they don't know 623 00:31:12,090 --> 00:31:08,710 anything about so they they will 624 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:12,100 encourage people the citizen to do 625 00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:15,130 research and they encourage people to 626 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:19,150 report it then that's that's what I can 627 00:31:25,409 --> 00:31:21,970 see so is pretty open up to the subjects 628 00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:25,419 from the China government but again as 629 00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:27,760 long as you don't you don't make it too 630 00:31:32,850 --> 00:31:29,740 spiritual and you don't make it to 631 00:31:35,340 --> 00:31:32,860 become new-age subjects then they don't 632 00:31:37,010 --> 00:31:35,350 really care about it the reason I said 633 00:31:40,010 --> 00:31:37,020 it because recently 634 00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:40,020 they're free a few there there there 635 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:44,190 there's a UFO conference in Shanghai and 636 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:47,370 Beijing just the end of last year korvac 637 00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:50,070 December I attended the Beijing button 638 00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:53,910 and the China government the China 639 00:31:58,730 --> 00:31:56,430 people that take day what not not 640 00:32:00,920 --> 00:31:58,740 charlie people put it this way the we 641 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:00,930 have three gases from the States we have 642 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:04,890 Lauren as an hour we have my Kosala from 643 00:32:09,770 --> 00:32:07,170 Exopolitics and we have Chandi salsa all 644 00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:09,780 three of them can be Beijing and 645 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:12,960 Shanghai and share the story share the 646 00:32:22,090 --> 00:32:18,930 the the lecture people are crazy about 647 00:32:24,410 --> 00:32:22,100 it people are so happy and they were so 648 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:24,420 fascinating about the information and 649 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:27,990 all that but the case is after the 650 00:32:36,890 --> 00:32:31,440 lecture one of one of the scientists who 651 00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:36,900 posed an article in one of the office or 652 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:39,630 website they are not attacking them but 653 00:32:48,740 --> 00:32:45,090 it attacked the way this the word they 654 00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:48,750 used a swab from the UFO information to 655 00:32:57,530 --> 00:32:53,640 a spiritual perspective and they the the 656 00:33:00,550 --> 00:32:57,540 way they the way he wrote it he actually 657 00:33:03,530 --> 00:33:00,560 of course he's attacking this kind of 658 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:03,540 perspective of spiritual perspective 659 00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:06,090 because they were so worried about with 660 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:09,600 UFO information your wishes will swap 661 00:33:17,540 --> 00:33:13,290 from Scientifics to a couch so that's 662 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:17,550 why you can tell they are still not to 663 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:21,720 open to completely to this subject 664 00:33:26,210 --> 00:33:23,850 completely because we all know the UFO 665 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:26,220 research when you when you research on a 666 00:33:31,130 --> 00:33:29,130 UFO subject when you only research when 667 00:33:33,710 --> 00:33:31,140 you only treat it as scientists you only 668 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:33,720 get only on the outside of the 669 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:35,610 information you don't ever get inside 670 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:38,690 into the center of the UFO or the alien 671 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:42,080 perspective so that's that's why I think 672 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:46,770 they not completely open up to this but 673 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:50,250 they they they really interested about 674 00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:50,880 it 675 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:53,310 four things they want to know more but 676 00:33:59,560 --> 00:33:55,290 they also at the same time on the same 677 00:34:02,750 --> 00:33:59,570 side they worry about people will be too 678 00:34:04,790 --> 00:34:02,760 in morph into it and then they would 679 00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:04,800 change their mindset and change their 680 00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:08,040 way they think and they really worry 681 00:34:11,930 --> 00:34:10,700 about them my Matters put it this way 682 00:34:15,410 --> 00:34:11,940 hmm 683 00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:15,420 is there any other example of anything 684 00:34:19,730 --> 00:34:17,190 you can think of that is similar to that 685 00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:19,740 you know like do they feel the same way 686 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:22,320 about people talking about a ghost 687 00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:23,940 sighting or anything like that I mean is 688 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:27,240 that a similar attitude and other 689 00:34:33,740 --> 00:34:30,570 paranormal remember to go subjects 690 00:34:36,740 --> 00:34:33,750 ghosts the paranormal subjects is not 691 00:34:39,020 --> 00:34:36,750 allowed in China because they think is 692 00:34:41,870 --> 00:34:39,030 part of the religion is that right long 693 00:34:44,780 --> 00:34:41,880 oh yes yes well I mentioned that on the 694 00:34:48,110 --> 00:34:44,790 other media and people think we do funny 695 00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:48,120 is whenever we make a movie in Hong Kong 696 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:51,240 here okay we make movie many different 697 00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:54,210 kind of movie we have Scientifics movie 698 00:35:01,580 --> 00:34:58,260 we have paranormal movies in Hong Kong 699 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:01,590 here so whenever we send the movie to 700 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:04,560 the China we want to launch the movie in 701 00:35:09,650 --> 00:35:08,450 China we have to change the ending 702 00:35:11,660 --> 00:35:09,660 alright 703 00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:11,670 you know I'm talking about the 704 00:35:17,780 --> 00:35:15,000 paranormal movies right okay we have to 705 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:17,790 change the ending do we have to make it 706 00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:22,530 becomes explainable example the last 707 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:25,380 ending could be the the actor or the 708 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:28,050 actress who have been involved into this 709 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:31,380 paranormal experience you had to wake up 710 00:35:37,070 --> 00:35:34,170 and from the dream so this is a dream 711 00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:37,080 and this is not nothing right and you 712 00:35:42,020 --> 00:35:39,300 have to do something like that to change 713 00:35:48,170 --> 00:35:42,030 an ending to be able to launch the movie 714 00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:48,180 in China oh wow yeah I mentioned this to 715 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:50,460 many people and first of all they don't 716 00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:51,930 believe that so we have different 717 00:35:59,330 --> 00:35:56,510 version on the paranormal movies in here 718 00:36:03,050 --> 00:35:59,340 but at the same time at the same time 719 00:36:04,819 --> 00:36:03,060 when I whenever I goes up to China it's 720 00:36:07,249 --> 00:36:04,829 a big place right so 721 00:36:10,940 --> 00:36:07,259 I go to South area of China people are 722 00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,950 thinking pretty much the same way as us 723 00:36:17,479 --> 00:36:13,440 from Hong Kong because we are speaking 724 00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:17,489 the same language in Cantonese you know 725 00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:19,859 most of China Chinese people speak 726 00:36:26,630 --> 00:36:23,190 Mandarin but in the South area NH and 727 00:36:29,059 --> 00:36:26,640 Hong Kong will speak Cantonese so we we 728 00:36:31,299 --> 00:36:29,069 pretty much sharing the same thing so 729 00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:31,309 the people from south like Gwangju 730 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:35,190 people from Guangzhou they dispatch 731 00:36:40,759 --> 00:36:38,039 Cantonese and they believe in ghosts 732 00:36:43,279 --> 00:36:40,769 they believe in paranormal stuff but the 733 00:36:49,150 --> 00:36:43,289 people on the north they don't because 734 00:36:51,890 --> 00:36:49,160 they never really have a chance to to 735 00:36:55,219 --> 00:36:51,900 observe this kind of information at all 736 00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:55,229 but the more I research in the States 737 00:37:00,589 --> 00:36:57,420 the more we share the more contact with 738 00:37:04,489 --> 00:37:00,599 the after keys and the contactees myself 739 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:04,499 and then I realize that paranormal 740 00:37:12,939 --> 00:37:08,160 things the paranormal are actually quite 741 00:37:16,729 --> 00:37:12,949 involved into the UFO phenomenon so 742 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:16,739 probability they are all related so if 743 00:37:22,209 --> 00:37:19,410 we can only research on the scientific 744 00:37:25,279 --> 00:37:22,219 way so we can we are only basically 745 00:37:29,959 --> 00:37:25,289 researching on the aliens craft on the 746 00:37:33,859 --> 00:37:29,969 aliens car right there we go so you 747 00:37:37,459 --> 00:37:33,869 never really get into the deeper center 748 00:37:41,209 --> 00:37:37,469 of the whole phenomenon so that's why I 749 00:37:44,299 --> 00:37:41,219 think at the same time China government 750 00:37:47,660 --> 00:37:44,309 may try to involve into it but I think 751 00:37:50,479 --> 00:37:47,670 they also worry to let the citizen in 752 00:37:52,309 --> 00:37:50,489 morph into it too much so I think it's 753 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:52,319 some kind of contradiction between it 754 00:38:01,430 --> 00:37:57,119 and some of the higher rank official 755 00:38:04,189 --> 00:38:01,440 maybe maybe they are fighting to get a 756 00:38:07,779 --> 00:38:04,199 deeper research into it but you know 757 00:38:09,979 --> 00:38:07,789 also a taboo in China in China a culture 758 00:38:16,329 --> 00:38:09,989 uh-huh Wow 759 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:16,339 all very interesting now is there a like 760 00:38:19,690 --> 00:38:18,140 the best way I could put that is there a 761 00:38:21,970 --> 00:38:19,700 Chinese Roswell 762 00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:21,980 I mean it's there's some really famous 763 00:38:31,089 --> 00:38:27,470 UFO case that time on the mall yeah I 764 00:38:33,989 --> 00:38:31,099 can share I can share with you a few 765 00:38:36,279 --> 00:38:33,999 cases a one of the cases is very 766 00:38:39,759 --> 00:38:36,289 important because it's the one of the 767 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:39,769 biggest abduction cases and it happens 768 00:38:48,809 --> 00:38:46,160 on 1977 and one of the guy he's a farmer 769 00:38:51,630 --> 00:38:48,819 and he's about to get married but just 770 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:51,640 before he got married he disappeared he 771 00:38:59,130 --> 00:38:55,690 disappeared in no reason all right and 772 00:39:02,079 --> 00:38:59,140 people think he may be a runaway runaway 773 00:39:06,309 --> 00:39:02,089 groom but now that's not the case he 774 00:39:07,870 --> 00:39:06,319 really want to marry this woman so but 775 00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:07,880 he disappeared just before the marriage 776 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:10,640 and the people from the winners trying 777 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:13,569 to find him more than ten days and 778 00:39:19,870 --> 00:39:17,930 nobody nobody knows why when but the 779 00:39:23,140 --> 00:39:19,880 funny thing is one of the important 780 00:39:26,769 --> 00:39:23,150 thing is the people who live in the 781 00:39:31,509 --> 00:39:26,779 village one one of the people who 782 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:31,519 receive a telepath teller Telegraph but 783 00:39:37,029 --> 00:39:34,249 the telegraph which is late and arrive 784 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,039 late because of so many knowing the 785 00:39:44,319 --> 00:39:40,160 people in those days in 77 people don't 786 00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:44,329 have very good communications and even 787 00:39:50,739 --> 00:39:47,089 in the whole village they share one form 788 00:39:55,329 --> 00:39:50,749 so dopey knows the Telegraph the telex 789 00:39:58,620 --> 00:39:55,339 Telegraph arrived and until one day they 790 00:40:02,950 --> 00:39:58,630 find out this Telegraph which is already 791 00:40:05,650 --> 00:40:02,960 ten days later but the Telegraph itself 792 00:40:07,749 --> 00:40:05,660 was sent the second day when he 793 00:40:08,739 --> 00:40:07,759 disappeared this guy his name's a Wong I 794 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:08,749 don't want to keep the whole name 795 00:40:13,539 --> 00:40:10,970 because the whole names means like a 796 00:40:15,819 --> 00:40:13,549 Jedi is known to everybody so it's 797 00:40:19,059 --> 00:40:15,829 haunted hard to remember so I just call 798 00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:19,069 him wrong and he disappears the second 799 00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:22,400 day the teleprompter Telegraph arrived 800 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:25,369 but because of the people who who don't 801 00:40:29,620 --> 00:40:27,650 know about whole thing and people of the 802 00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:29,630 soul messing up is chaos in the 803 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:32,630 village so nobody realized the Telegraph 804 00:40:36,940 --> 00:40:35,090 arrived but the Telegraph actually sent 805 00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:36,950 the second day when he disappeared I 806 00:40:46,630 --> 00:40:42,560 mean he disappeared on 27th of July and 807 00:40:48,850 --> 00:40:46,640 the telegraph sent 28th of July but 808 00:40:52,450 --> 00:40:48,860 nobody knows about it so they only find 809 00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:52,460 out ten days later but the telegraph was 810 00:41:04,090 --> 00:40:57,200 sent from Shanghai and this guy is live 811 00:41:06,460 --> 00:41:04,100 in Ruby Ruby is also another places so 812 00:41:11,470 --> 00:41:06,470 on the north so it's quite a far 813 00:41:13,810 --> 00:41:11,480 distance nobody know how I mean okay 814 00:41:17,610 --> 00:41:13,820 that the Telegraph itself is saying this 815 00:41:21,580 --> 00:41:17,620 guy Wong was staying in Shanghai and 816 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:21,590 staying in with the military 817 00:41:26,860 --> 00:41:24,650 so this officer report from the military 818 00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:26,870 so this is the first time it is appear 819 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:28,910 but nobody understand how come this guy 820 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:32,480 can travel all this far from Roubaix to 821 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:36,650 Shanghai in ten hours and we were 822 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:41,300 talking about like thousand ill or a 823 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:44,510 thousand forty thousand and hundred 824 00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,770 forty miles right so there's no way they 825 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:50,480 can travel that far and this guy is a 826 00:41:56,650 --> 00:41:52,970 formal it doesn't take helicopters they 827 00:42:00,040 --> 00:41:56,660 the fastest way he got their needs 828 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:00,050 twenty two hours but you know it just 829 00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:02,690 you know that the telegraph sent out in 830 00:42:07,060 --> 00:42:03,740 ten hours so 831 00:42:09,790 --> 00:42:07,070 nobody understand how he do it but the 832 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:09,800 reason he and then he mentioned about it 833 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:12,290 he mentioned he's leaving he's sleeping 834 00:42:18,610 --> 00:42:14,630 and suddenly he wake up by some noise 835 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:18,620 and he doesn't know wow he doesn't know 836 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:21,290 why when he get up he's leaving he's 837 00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:23,870 supposed leaving in the farm area we 838 00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:26,000 required area but when he wake up in the 839 00:42:31,450 --> 00:42:28,400 morning he just wake up and saw so many 840 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:31,460 huge building and he doesn't know where 841 00:42:36,850 --> 00:42:34,370 he was he where he was so he keep asking 842 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:36,860 people and people tell him you ain't you 843 00:42:42,730 --> 00:42:40,310 in Shanghai and that really make him 844 00:42:43,450 --> 00:42:42,740 crazy and he doesn't know what to do so 845 00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:43,460 he could 846 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:46,340 when you find the policeman and the 847 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:49,130 policeman sand is telepath Telegraph to 848 00:42:57,070 --> 00:42:53,210 where he live then was the first the 849 00:43:02,260 --> 00:42:57,080 first case and in the second case is two 850 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,270 months later and he dis dis Wang go back 851 00:43:05,590 --> 00:43:04,640 home asleep again and then next morning 852 00:43:08,590 --> 00:43:05,600 when he get up 853 00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:08,600 he went to Shanghai a train station 854 00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:12,830 again and he was so surprised he saw the 855 00:43:20,050 --> 00:43:15,110 clock the clock on the building it was 856 00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:20,060 one o clock in the midnight 1:00 a.m. so 857 00:43:24,250 --> 00:43:22,190 he doesn't know what to do 858 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:24,260 so remember he remember the last time he 859 00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:27,250 went to the campsite and get help from 860 00:43:34,270 --> 00:43:30,800 the military so he was thinking maybe I 861 00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:34,280 can do the same thing so he trying to go 862 00:43:39,850 --> 00:43:37,310 to the military camp site and try to get 863 00:43:42,670 --> 00:43:39,860 help remember this is the second times 864 00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:42,680 of this happened but he doesn't remember 865 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:47,870 it isn't know is suddenly - military guy 866 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:50,960 just come up to him and said ok we were 867 00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:54,350 supposed to wait you here and then they 868 00:44:02,350 --> 00:43:56,180 bring he brought him they brought him to 869 00:44:04,450 --> 00:44:02,360 the campsite and Huang suddenly I mean 870 00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:04,460 these two these two military prank 871 00:44:10,990 --> 00:44:07,670 brought him to a higher level of one of 872 00:44:12,850 --> 00:44:11,000 the general but Wang realized that when 873 00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:12,860 he saw the general these two guys 874 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:16,730 certainly disappear just behind him he 875 00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:18,290 was there they were they were there like 876 00:44:23,290 --> 00:44:20,150 a minutes ago and suddenly they have 877 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:23,300 gone so he doesn't know why but when he 878 00:44:28,420 --> 00:44:25,250 talked to the higher rank of them the 879 00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:28,430 general the general was so surprised how 880 00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:30,200 you can into the campsite this is a 881 00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:33,020 campsite and no citizens can come in 882 00:44:38,410 --> 00:44:35,750 here how do you come here so long term 883 00:44:42,910 --> 00:44:38,420 two of the military guy brought me here 884 00:44:45,790 --> 00:44:42,920 and but the general don't see anyone he 885 00:44:49,420 --> 00:44:45,800 just saw all just going into the camp 886 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:49,430 and talked to him so another thing you 887 00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:52,370 know make everybody surprised so they 888 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:54,470 give him some money and then same him 889 00:44:58,720 --> 00:44:55,770 home 890 00:45:02,240 --> 00:44:58,730 and that's it so this is the second 891 00:45:04,580 --> 00:45:02,250 second case the second second time of 892 00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:04,590 attacks from the third time of the 893 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,280 abduction is ten days later and he 894 00:45:14,630 --> 00:45:10,880 finishes work wrong finishes work and 895 00:45:17,090 --> 00:45:14,640 you feel like dizzy and then feel like 896 00:45:21,790 --> 00:45:17,100 faint and then by the time you get up he 897 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:21,800 was somewhere in a hotel or something 898 00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:24,960 and there were two young people sitting 899 00:45:30,590 --> 00:45:27,360 next to him and tell him this is leg 900 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:30,600 this is lando it's somewhere really far 901 00:45:38,420 --> 00:45:34,770 away we way way far away like a thousand 902 00:45:42,340 --> 00:45:38,430 two hundred miles away but he doesn't 903 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:42,350 know how he get there so all these cases 904 00:45:48,290 --> 00:45:45,690 happened to this guy and they all have 905 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:48,300 the report they all have the report end 906 00:45:54,410 --> 00:45:52,110 or fizzle record from the military from 907 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:54,420 the police because remember he got help 908 00:46:00,410 --> 00:45:57,090 from the military to get home he the 909 00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:00,420 Talib the Telegraph was sent from a 910 00:46:06,590 --> 00:46:03,390 military camp site to his home to his 911 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:06,600 village so this is all hand report this 912 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:09,090 is only record and nobody knows how he 913 00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:13,230 get there he doesn't fly it he's just a 914 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:17,280 farmer he can you can basically do the 915 00:46:22,310 --> 00:46:19,170 farming he doesn't know what to do even 916 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:22,320 he feels care in the city so this is one 917 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:26,490 of the important cases and the UFO 918 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:30,210 Beijing UFO research society actually 919 00:46:36,670 --> 00:46:34,170 sent researchers are very famous UFO 920 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:36,680 researchers in Beijing his name's Sean 921 00:46:45,290 --> 00:46:39,480 it's premature saying them to everybody 922 00:46:48,260 --> 00:46:45,300 but he he scurry in this cases and he 923 00:46:51,620 --> 00:46:48,270 actually involved in he went to a 924 00:46:54,770 --> 00:46:51,630 Beijing University and find a doctor to 925 00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:54,780 do the hypnosis to disguise and trying 926 00:47:01,880 --> 00:46:58,170 to find out information but during the 927 00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:01,890 hypnosis he actually remembered two 928 00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:06,740 people dressing like a policeman 929 00:47:13,090 --> 00:47:10,700 and fly with him when I talk to about 930 00:47:15,070 --> 00:47:13,100 flying they're not sitting in the UFO 931 00:47:17,859 --> 00:47:15,080 they're not sitting here flying sausage 932 00:47:21,609 --> 00:47:17,869 they were flying like Superman like 933 00:47:25,330 --> 00:47:21,619 Superman two of them has got him flying 934 00:47:28,270 --> 00:47:25,340 on the air and then fine and then they 935 00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:28,280 they arrive to somewhere and then they 936 00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:30,830 and then after that he doesn't remember 937 00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:33,200 anything but that is that what they can 938 00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:36,110 get from the hypnosis so this is one of 939 00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:39,650 the UFO abduction cases in China and of 940 00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:42,110 course back then they don't know much 941 00:47:50,260 --> 00:47:45,590 about the alien and all the thing you 942 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:50,270 are talking about 1977 they do treat 943 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:53,210 this as a really a mystery cases but 944 00:47:59,050 --> 00:47:55,130 they have report they have record they 945 00:48:02,050 --> 00:47:59,060 have all the document thing store all 946 00:48:05,260 --> 00:48:02,060 these days even the TV broadcast is 947 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:05,270 story as well so later on when we more 948 00:48:10,450 --> 00:48:08,510 and more UFO cases appear and this one 949 00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:10,460 is also treated as one of the alien 950 00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:13,520 abduction case that is quite the story 951 00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:15,260 I'm gonna get more into that we're ready 952 00:48:22,270 --> 00:48:18,800 for our second and final break so Mike 953 00:48:23,859 --> 00:48:22,280 my guest is Chuck Fey and we are going 954 00:48:26,910 --> 00:48:23,869 to be going to break we'll be right back 955 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:26,920 right after these messages hang in there 956 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:29,690 alright welcome back this is Martin 957 00:48:36,490 --> 00:48:32,500 Willis with podcast UFO and my guest is 958 00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:36,500 Chuck Fay and we were talking about this 959 00:48:44,950 --> 00:48:40,820 very strange and interesting case and to 960 00:48:46,359 --> 00:48:44,960 think that the person that I don't know 961 00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:46,369 if was some type of abduction or 962 00:48:50,410 --> 00:48:48,560 whatever kept landing in these little 963 00:48:54,849 --> 00:48:50,420 towns far away somehow 964 00:48:58,450 --> 00:48:54,859 and did you say Chuck did you say that 965 00:49:00,820 --> 00:48:58,460 it appeared to be like police officers 966 00:49:06,070 --> 00:49:00,830 or something that was in during his uh 967 00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:06,080 his regression of hypnotism did did he 968 00:49:12,940 --> 00:49:09,590 say what was or military what was that 969 00:49:15,010 --> 00:49:12,950 again well remember he's a farmer so he 970 00:49:18,430 --> 00:49:15,020 doesn't really can't tell whether the 971 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:18,440 policeman or they're the military but he 972 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:20,650 can tell these two guys 973 00:49:26,140 --> 00:49:24,650 wearing uniform during the hypnosis know 974 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:26,150 that he knows that he doesn't remember 975 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:28,910 how he get to the different cities right 976 00:49:36,339 --> 00:49:33,440 how he go to a far distance so during 977 00:49:39,250 --> 00:49:36,349 the hypnosis he remember flying together 978 00:49:41,650 --> 00:49:39,260 with two person two gentlemen and these 979 00:49:43,630 --> 00:49:41,660 two gentlemen are wearing uniforms he 980 00:49:45,609 --> 00:49:43,640 remember hurry 981 00:49:47,410 --> 00:49:45,619 Police Department from the police 982 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:47,420 department or from the military he 983 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:49,730 doesn't really tell but he remember 984 00:49:57,070 --> 00:49:54,530 they're wearing uniforms and you know is 985 00:49:59,230 --> 00:49:57,080 hard to believe for most of it the 986 00:50:01,780 --> 00:49:59,240 people they see all people are thinking 987 00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:01,790 is crazy but remember when we look at 988 00:50:07,690 --> 00:50:04,609 the UFO cases and abduction cases in the 989 00:50:11,230 --> 00:50:07,700 States or the other countries so many 990 00:50:16,030 --> 00:50:11,240 times the after keys have contact with 991 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:16,040 some of the military person even lying 992 00:50:22,839 --> 00:50:19,090 on the examination tables with degres 993 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:22,849 know the examination on them they still 994 00:50:28,540 --> 00:50:26,089 see some military involved and they saw 995 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:28,550 people who wearing uniform from behind 996 00:50:35,650 --> 00:50:31,760 so it's pretty much the same situation 997 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,660 he remember no with no contact with 998 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:38,240 military and they brought him fly all 999 00:50:43,450 --> 00:50:40,880 the way so when I what I have in mind 1000 00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:43,460 and what the most of the UFO researches 1001 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:46,400 in mind about these cases is he'd been 1002 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:50,450 abducted but probably the beings who 1003 00:50:55,870 --> 00:50:53,570 abduct him doesn't want to scare you 1004 00:50:57,820 --> 00:50:55,880 know so he's a farmer after all you know 1005 00:51:00,540 --> 00:50:57,830 they don't want to show their big eyes a 1006 00:51:05,950 --> 00:51:00,550 big head you know or maybe their 1007 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:05,960 reptilian faces so they probably let him 1008 00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:09,290 see a policeman properly let him see 1009 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:13,070 military officers so at least he won't 1010 00:51:20,170 --> 00:51:15,730 feel scared you know and back there in 1011 00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:20,180 1970 and 70s people from the village 1012 00:51:25,780 --> 00:51:23,030 people from the countryside they they 1013 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:25,790 also believed that the officials like 1014 00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:29,210 the chair military or the policeman they 1015 00:51:33,819 --> 00:51:32,990 are helping the citizen right so I think 1016 00:51:35,769 --> 00:51:33,829 they would 1017 00:51:39,069 --> 00:51:35,779 give him a peace of mind when they fly 1018 00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:39,079 with him and a funny thing is a lot of 1019 00:51:44,799 --> 00:51:41,569 UFO abduction cases not only this one 1020 00:51:47,499 --> 00:51:44,809 but also the other two major famous 1021 00:51:51,099 --> 00:51:47,509 abduction cases they don't actually get 1022 00:51:54,940 --> 00:51:51,109 into the craft they fly they fly like 1023 00:51:56,469 --> 00:51:54,950 Superman no another yeah so many cases 1024 00:51:58,930 --> 00:51:56,479 like this 1025 00:52:01,390 --> 00:51:58,940 yeah the abduction cases also he 1026 00:52:04,269 --> 00:52:01,400 remember these two gentlemen wearing 1027 00:52:07,479 --> 00:52:04,279 military uniform but flying together 1028 00:52:12,219 --> 00:52:07,489 with him and he remember flying on the 1029 00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:12,229 top of the trees and so so I think this 1030 00:52:17,499 --> 00:52:14,569 is one funny phenomenon in China's 1031 00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:17,509 abduction cases and not many people 1032 00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:20,209 actually saw the craft except one of the 1033 00:52:27,069 --> 00:52:23,180 guy his name Shou Shou actually saw the 1034 00:52:30,099 --> 00:52:27,079 craft stopped a park in the forest and 1035 00:52:35,289 --> 00:52:30,109 who remembered the craft looks like a 1036 00:52:37,779 --> 00:52:35,299 ping-pong paddle so he also I think 1037 00:52:40,689 --> 00:52:37,789 Montana with a circle with a little 1038 00:52:43,989 --> 00:52:40,699 handle on the back but it's a huge craft 1039 00:52:46,299 --> 00:52:43,999 stopping inside woods and all that he 1040 00:52:49,479 --> 00:52:46,309 actually get into the wood get into the 1041 00:52:52,269 --> 00:52:49,489 kravitz himself and remember I told you 1042 00:52:55,180 --> 00:52:52,279 he said when he got in there he saw a 1043 00:52:57,579 --> 00:52:55,190 very sick Chinese girl sitting in the 1044 00:53:01,180 --> 00:52:57,589 craft himself so the alien brought him 1045 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:01,190 and I want him to do some helping or 1046 00:53:07,989 --> 00:53:04,729 maybe some healing to this young girl 1047 00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:07,999 and and then they released both of them 1048 00:53:13,890 --> 00:53:10,430 so the reason they brought chow chow is 1049 00:53:18,130 --> 00:53:13,900 probably he knows a little bit of 1050 00:53:20,469 --> 00:53:18,140 Medical Chinese medical method so he 1051 00:53:23,969 --> 00:53:20,479 brought him to try to cure this Chinese 1052 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:23,979 girl and then after this abduction and 1053 00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,650 the story opened up to the public and 1054 00:53:34,569 --> 00:53:29,359 Beijing UFO research society is saying 1055 00:53:37,209 --> 00:53:34,579 the same guy to find this Chow and do 1056 00:53:41,319 --> 00:53:37,219 some testimony from him and then they 1057 00:53:44,049 --> 00:53:41,329 went to the military hospital to do 1058 00:53:45,729 --> 00:53:44,059 hypnosis and he tell all his story the 1059 00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:45,739 funny thing is they trying to find his 1060 00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:47,230 Chinese sick girl 1061 00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:50,079 because they knew they'd far vary quite 1062 00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:53,950 a big distance between his home and the 1063 00:53:57,720 --> 00:53:56,680 way that the place he saw his craft and 1064 00:54:00,480 --> 00:53:57,730 his Chinese girl 1065 00:54:03,990 --> 00:54:00,490 so they trying to find his girls they 1066 00:54:06,210 --> 00:54:04,000 they bring Chow to police station and 1067 00:54:09,359 --> 00:54:06,220 the policemen help him to draw the faces 1068 00:54:12,349 --> 00:54:09,369 and they actually found actually found 1069 00:54:15,210 --> 00:54:12,359 this girl and this girl grow up now and 1070 00:54:17,460 --> 00:54:15,220 the funny thing is this girl used to be 1071 00:54:19,819 --> 00:54:17,470 very sick and the family of the girl 1072 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:19,829 said she's very sick but so you just 1073 00:54:26,550 --> 00:54:23,890 totally recover in just one day and next 1074 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:26,560 day he get up to get up she's completely 1075 00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:28,510 heal I mean all these signals are gone 1076 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:31,150 but they find a little scar on the back 1077 00:54:38,579 --> 00:54:35,290 of his help of this girl's help this is 1078 00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:38,589 where they did expand the the the 1079 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:41,560 experiment in the craft with Chow and 1080 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:44,170 his girl together so the alien actually 1081 00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:48,250 brings how to heal this girl and this 1082 00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:50,980 story have a full report from the UFO 1083 00:54:56,790 --> 00:54:54,310 research community and the military with 1084 00:55:01,109 --> 00:54:56,800 record and the policeman record as well 1085 00:55:06,329 --> 00:55:01,119 so another official cases in China Wow 1086 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:06,339 now did that did the the farmer the guy 1087 00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:08,050 there that kept landing in the different 1088 00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:09,730 towns did he end up getting married 1089 00:55:18,030 --> 00:55:14,020 after all well the story never tell but 1090 00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:18,040 what I was told is he was a farmer yeah 1091 00:55:24,630 --> 00:55:20,950 he only know farming for his whole life 1092 00:55:30,270 --> 00:55:24,640 but after the abduction he somehow he 1093 00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:30,280 got his mind some kind of knowledge so 1094 00:55:35,339 --> 00:55:33,520 he can do invention I don't know what 1095 00:55:38,220 --> 00:55:35,349 kind of invention but probably involved 1096 00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:38,230 into farming but he's just a farmer and 1097 00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:40,569 do all this old traditional way to farm 1098 00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,150 and he certainly know how to invent 1099 00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:45,839 something in when some equipment to 1100 00:55:53,069 --> 00:55:50,319 probably help him farming help him more 1101 00:55:57,950 --> 00:55:53,079 faster or easier way to do the farming I 1102 00:56:01,080 --> 00:55:57,960 think I think that is some kind of brain 1103 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:01,090 develop as well during the 1104 00:56:06,210 --> 00:56:03,850 of cases a lot of abduction cases the 1105 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:06,220 guy have personality change they have 1106 00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:07,810 the knowledge change they have knowledge 1107 00:56:13,130 --> 00:56:10,630 download to their brain I think pretty 1108 00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,140 much the same thing happened to this guy 1109 00:56:20,540 --> 00:56:16,000 interesting interesting now in the chat 1110 00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:20,550 room Bob wanted to know if there's any 1111 00:56:26,270 --> 00:56:23,350 Chinese military cases like the 1112 00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:26,280 tic-tac-toe I mean I'm sorry the Tic Tac 1113 00:56:31,830 --> 00:56:30,160 tic UFO in the office San Diego are 1114 00:56:33,450 --> 00:56:31,840 there any military cases that you're 1115 00:56:37,130 --> 00:56:33,460 aware of where there was a military 1116 00:56:41,850 --> 00:56:37,140 encounter in any cases like that I 1117 00:56:48,450 --> 00:56:41,860 definitely believe so and I can share 1118 00:56:53,790 --> 00:56:48,460 one of the cases happening 2018 which is 1119 00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:53,800 last year there there is a seat one seat 1120 00:56:58,890 --> 00:56:56,050 one Airport see Troy International 1121 00:57:00,450 --> 00:56:58,900 Airport is away a little bit way on the 1122 00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:00,460 north 1123 00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:06,700 the average shutdown one day people who 1124 00:57:12,420 --> 00:57:09,280 is yelling and screaming and all that 1125 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:12,430 because they're angry because of the 1126 00:57:18,810 --> 00:57:15,520 airport shutdown like 18 hours as far as 1127 00:57:21,870 --> 00:57:18,820 I remember the reason they shut it down 1128 00:57:28,350 --> 00:57:21,880 and offficial reason is they do a 1129 00:57:29,850 --> 00:57:28,360 military experiment or military research 1130 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:29,860 or something so they have to shut down 1131 00:57:36,450 --> 00:57:32,530 the airport but the point is there are 1132 00:57:38,730 --> 00:57:36,460 military guys their soldiers in the 1133 00:57:41,490 --> 00:57:38,740 airport and they're in a hurry to fight 1134 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:41,500 back to Beijing to report something so 1135 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:45,010 the reason the real reason the attack is 1136 00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:47,230 because some of the some of the 1137 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:50,800 passenger who've been stuck in the 1138 00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:53,530 building of the airport they actually 1139 00:58:01,170 --> 00:57:57,550 filmed a UFO flying hovering on the 1140 00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:01,180 airport itself so we have military 1141 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:04,900 witness but I think I think the military 1142 00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:08,170 actually involved into the study but the 1143 00:58:12,180 --> 00:58:10,750 case is again when when this case are 1144 00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:12,190 studied by the military they never 1145 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:14,320 really open up the case the 1146 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:16,240 more you can the only thing you can tell 1147 00:58:24,390 --> 00:58:20,050 is it reports it on the TV under new 1148 00:58:27,450 --> 00:58:24,400 section again on that the officials TV 1149 00:58:30,030 --> 00:58:27,460 broadcast station so so I think I think 1150 00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:30,040 the military do actually involve into 1151 00:58:34,350 --> 00:58:31,870 this kind of research but they never 1152 00:58:36,750 --> 00:58:34,360 really open up the story when they 1153 00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:36,760 decided not to open up the story there 1154 00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:38,950 is no way you can find out unless you 1155 00:58:44,550 --> 00:58:41,440 know that whistleblower from the 1156 00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:44,560 military itself but is really we're in 1157 00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:45,280 China 1158 00:58:50,910 --> 00:58:48,460 now there's yes go ahead 1159 00:58:54,090 --> 00:58:50,920 now what year did you say that in 1160 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:54,100 particular happened um 1161 00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:56,410 I think is that you know I don't have 1162 00:59:03,750 --> 00:58:58,450 the data right now but I remember is 1163 00:59:06,930 --> 00:59:03,760 that mm mm there's so many UFO hovering 1164 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:06,940 in the airport yeah their business up we 1165 00:59:12,810 --> 00:59:10,450 have Paul Jay in the chatroom was asking 1166 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:12,820 if you could talk about now I don't know 1167 00:59:21,930 --> 00:59:16,810 how to pronounce it the zyo Shan Airport 1168 00:59:27,990 --> 00:59:21,940 shut down in 2010 it's a it says the 1169 00:59:31,790 --> 00:59:28,000 airport starts with that xiao8 a and is 1170 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:31,800 a I know you have to translate that into 1171 00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:41,800 Chinese but shut yeah and you know but I 1172 00:59:45,930 --> 00:59:43,600 thought it was like a year ago and I 1173 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:45,940 wasn't familiar with this 2010 one that 1174 00:59:52,110 --> 00:59:49,050 that that polyposis it in the chat room 1175 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:52,120 well I think we have quite a few times 1176 00:59:59,520 --> 00:59:54,130 that airport shut down because of the 1177 01:00:01,830 --> 00:59:59,530 UFO but one of the did the most the case 1178 01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:01,840 because I remember I mentioned this on 1179 01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:04,270 the other the other media 1180 01:00:11,550 --> 01:00:07,990 it was 2018 but I deeply believe me if 1181 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:11,560 somebody mentioned about 2010 it happens 1182 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:16,090 before no 2018 Airport sentence not is 1183 01:00:23,610 --> 01:00:20,290 definitely not the first time I think it 1184 01:00:25,770 --> 01:00:23,620 happens before many times but nobody 1185 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:25,780 really talks about and you know China 1186 01:00:32,190 --> 01:00:28,030 China people you know 1187 01:00:36,359 --> 01:00:32,200 the having development the society know 1188 01:00:39,570 --> 01:00:36,369 that the financials and that politicals 1189 01:00:44,099 --> 01:00:39,580 and technology everything is growing up 1190 01:00:48,890 --> 01:00:44,109 so UFOs the last thing they really focus 1191 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:48,900 on so we report we have people told us 1192 01:00:54,690 --> 01:00:52,930 they saw the UFO and episode time but 1193 01:00:58,349 --> 01:00:54,700 the point is they don't really care 1194 01:01:00,599 --> 01:00:58,359 about it they don't really do a lot of 1195 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:00,609 research on it so as long as the airport 1196 01:01:04,740 --> 01:01:02,890 we open again and people go back to 1197 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:04,750 their normal life and for people will 1198 01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:08,170 forget about whole thing yeah yeah 1199 01:01:15,050 --> 01:01:11,560 so whether any other the case you you 1200 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:15,060 mentioned are there any other cases that 1201 01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:18,250 that are real battle bigeye twenties 1202 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:21,160 like at this point 1203 01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:23,770 well let me why don't we share this 1204 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:27,280 story in China in Hong Kong okay yeah 1205 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:29,650 yeah it's Hong Kong East Palo China as 1206 01:01:37,339 --> 01:01:33,330 well but when didn't happens happen in 1207 01:01:43,650 --> 01:01:37,349 1985 like the one I mentioned that Hugh 1208 01:01:45,420 --> 01:01:43,660 mothership is a huge one so we remember 1209 01:01:47,460 --> 01:01:45,430 I told you in Hong Kong people we are 1210 01:01:48,810 --> 01:01:47,470 living in buildings they are not many 1211 01:01:51,810 --> 01:01:48,820 people even the house we live in 1212 01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:51,820 buildings and small buildings more flag 1213 01:01:57,510 --> 01:01:54,609 and one flipper we leave five people or 1214 01:02:01,410 --> 01:01:57,520 five family in the four hundred square 1215 01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:01,420 feet area so it's pretty tight you know 1216 01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:04,089 in Hong Kong as well 1217 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:07,359 I remember this places is named aberdeen 1218 01:02:15,180 --> 01:02:11,410 aberdeen is famous places in the south 1219 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:15,190 area of hong kong and we the people who 1220 01:02:22,890 --> 01:02:18,810 live there facing a sea facing the ocean 1221 01:02:26,220 --> 01:02:22,900 one of the night around 6:30 1222 01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:26,230 around 7:30 put it this way 7:30 is 1223 01:02:32,579 --> 01:02:29,230 people who supposed to finish work and 1224 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:32,589 go home and one of the village one of 1225 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:34,690 the a stage put it this way at state 1226 01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:37,330 buildings people who live there and one 1227 01:02:41,789 --> 01:02:39,250 of the woman who lived there when the 1228 01:02:44,339 --> 01:02:41,799 mom told him to close the window 1229 01:02:47,279 --> 01:02:44,349 because of too windy outside so when she 1230 01:02:51,569 --> 01:02:47,289 went out to close the window she saw a 1231 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:51,579 huge he mentioned his she mentioned is 1232 01:02:59,039 --> 01:02:56,130 about the size of a stadium a huge UFO 1233 01:03:04,259 --> 01:02:59,049 stopping hovering in the middle of the 1234 01:03:09,539 --> 01:03:04,269 air and this this graph is actually stop 1235 01:03:11,609 --> 01:03:09,549 and hovering above a building above the 1236 01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:11,619 building and you were so windy outside 1237 01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:15,209 she remembered she saw thousands of 1238 01:03:21,749 --> 01:03:19,089 colourful lights at the bottom of the 1239 01:03:25,859 --> 01:03:21,759 craft and she remember people who walk 1240 01:03:28,859 --> 01:03:25,869 on the street and who also look up to 1241 01:03:32,099 --> 01:03:28,869 the sky there they probably like 100 or 1242 01:03:34,529 --> 01:03:32,109 4,000 people who saw it now the funny 1243 01:03:38,669 --> 01:03:34,539 thing is people always think this is 1244 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:38,679 only one cases and one one crisis in 1245 01:03:43,979 --> 01:03:41,049 Aberdeen but people who don't know and 1246 01:03:46,469 --> 01:03:43,989 according to my investigate people don't 1247 01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:46,479 know this graph actually arrived more 1248 01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:49,119 than two times or three times because 1249 01:03:55,739 --> 01:03:52,839 once is arrived in the mid night I 1250 01:03:59,370 --> 01:03:55,749 remember this guy who called me and told 1251 01:04:02,099 --> 01:03:59,380 me he supposed to he was sleeping and 1252 01:04:05,039 --> 01:04:02,109 then he suddenly filled the building is 1253 01:04:08,429 --> 01:04:05,049 shaking at first he thought it was an 1254 01:04:11,309 --> 01:04:08,439 earthquake so he get up he remembers 1255 01:04:14,429 --> 01:04:11,319 something no some like decoration things 1256 01:04:16,829 --> 01:04:14,439 that hang on the wards no fell fell down 1257 01:04:20,429 --> 01:04:16,839 on the ground because of shaking is too 1258 01:04:22,499 --> 01:04:20,439 is too shaky so he went out to the 1259 01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:22,509 buildings he went out to the window and 1260 01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:24,849 tried to look what's happening but when 1261 01:04:29,549 --> 01:04:27,729 he went out he saw the people on the 1262 01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:29,559 opposite side of the building on the 1263 01:04:37,499 --> 01:04:32,400 opposite building remember that was like 1264 01:04:40,439 --> 01:04:37,509 1 or 2 a.m. it was quiet and people were 1265 01:04:41,999 --> 01:04:40,449 sleeping all the lights are out and he 1266 01:04:44,779 --> 01:04:42,009 remembered the opposite side of the 1267 01:04:47,339 --> 01:04:44,789 building people look out the window and 1268 01:04:50,429 --> 01:04:47,349 pawning in the window Horning out the 1269 01:04:53,789 --> 01:04:50,439 sky they pointing to the opposite side 1270 01:04:55,340 --> 01:04:53,799 which is the building he live so he went 1271 01:04:57,950 --> 01:04:55,350 out to the stairway 1272 01:05:00,370 --> 01:04:57,960 they have a better look on that on the 1273 01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:00,380 top view of the building he saw a 1274 01:05:08,540 --> 01:05:05,280 hexagon shape a huge mothership also he 1275 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:08,550 described as big as a stadium hovering 1276 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:10,770 on top of the building but that was 1:00 1277 01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:13,770 p.m. the cases I mentioned before is six 1278 01:05:21,470 --> 01:05:18,150 or seven day 7 p.m. now this is 1 or 2 1279 01:05:24,350 --> 01:05:21,480 a.m. so they're in these two cases but 1280 01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,360 they're all stopping in the same 1281 01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:26,640 building that's the funny thing it is 1282 01:05:31,190 --> 01:05:28,350 now under a state that have many 1283 01:05:34,970 --> 01:05:31,200 buildings but the UFO always hovering at 1284 01:05:37,550 --> 01:05:34,980 the same building nobody knows why and 1285 01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:37,560 then after a few years and then another 1286 01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:40,560 guy who call me and he said no no no all 1287 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:42,480 these cases are not right because the 1288 01:05:51,620 --> 01:05:47,090 time I saw the UFO is at 4 a.m. is about 1289 01:05:55,010 --> 01:05:51,630 to about the Sun the Sun set the sunrise 1290 01:05:57,590 --> 01:05:55,020 so he said this guy is a taxi driver he 1291 01:06:01,280 --> 01:05:57,600 said I go to work you know even before 1292 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:01,290 the sky light up before the sky is Duta 1293 01:06:05,900 --> 01:06:03,450 he went out to work and he went out to 1294 01:06:10,730 --> 01:06:05,910 work as soon as he came into the taxi 1295 01:06:14,090 --> 01:06:10,740 into the cab and he saw this huge UFO 1296 01:06:20,390 --> 01:06:14,100 craft hovering on the top of a building 1297 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:20,400 with a kind of a spotlight pawning to 1298 01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:22,290 the rooftop of the building but also 1299 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:25,710 happened in the same building we nobody 1300 01:06:31,790 --> 01:06:29,370 knows why is UFO hovering few times in 1301 01:06:34,670 --> 01:06:31,800 this Aberdeen area but they also 1302 01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:34,680 hovering at the same building there's 1303 01:06:39,830 --> 01:06:36,660 like more than like six or seven 1304 01:06:44,420 --> 01:06:39,840 building in the same area but only Apple 1305 01:06:46,730 --> 01:06:44,430 only hovering on one building so this is 1306 01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:46,740 one of the cases and this is widely 1307 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:50,400 report in Hong Kong here and is one of 1308 01:06:58,670 --> 01:06:54,810 the very famous case he even recorded in 1309 01:07:01,970 --> 01:06:58,680 the Roswell UFO Museum these cases also 1310 01:07:05,450 --> 01:07:01,980 reporting was well UFO museum so it's a 1311 01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:05,460 famous case in China in Hong Kong one of 1312 01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:08,880 the most famous case 1313 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:11,700 and during all this year when I do the 1314 01:07:17,749 --> 01:07:14,730 research and my own program and people 1315 01:07:20,450 --> 01:07:17,759 who come up to me and told me they've 1316 01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:20,460 been abducted by aliens you know one of 1317 01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:24,119 the woman his name is ma we told MA 1318 01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:27,569 we call him we call her MA she wrote me 1319 01:07:35,539 --> 01:07:32,160 an e-mail at 2012 and I was writing a 1320 01:07:37,549 --> 01:07:35,549 book I don't know what you put in there 1321 01:07:40,279 --> 01:07:37,559 I don't want to put just a simple UFO 1322 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:40,289 story into the book so I was kind of 1323 01:07:44,359 --> 01:07:42,450 stuck and I was waiting and I was 1324 01:07:46,930 --> 01:07:44,369 writing in front of the computer and I 1325 01:07:50,779 --> 01:07:46,940 remember one of the lunch one of the 1326 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:50,789 afternoon after my lunch and I suddenly 1327 01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:53,490 receive an email and from this lady is 1328 01:07:59,779 --> 01:07:57,210 ma she she just told me she thinks she's 1329 01:08:03,950 --> 01:07:59,789 crazy and she really needs help and she 1330 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:03,960 asking whether she can meet me so I I 1331 01:08:07,849 --> 01:08:06,210 don't know her so I sent her back an 1332 01:08:10,730 --> 01:08:07,859 email I said can you leave me a phone 1333 01:08:13,249 --> 01:08:10,740 number so we can talk and she replied 1334 01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:13,259 the email like three second with the 1335 01:08:17,689 --> 01:08:15,240 phone number so you can tell she's 1336 01:08:19,910 --> 01:08:17,699 actually waiting desperately waiting 1337 01:08:22,340 --> 01:08:19,920 next to the computer see wait for the 1338 01:08:26,510 --> 01:08:22,350 response so I call her right away and 1339 01:08:29,209 --> 01:08:26,520 she cry right away really crying 1340 01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:29,219 so I told I answer what happened she 1341 01:08:34,249 --> 01:08:31,500 tell she kept telling me she saw all 1342 01:08:37,070 --> 01:08:34,259 this picture when she get up the 1343 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:37,080 pictures in her brain on his image 1344 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:39,210 suddenly fresh up a lot of like 1345 01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:41,730 flashback in her brain but she doesn't 1346 01:08:48,649 --> 01:08:44,310 know you remember sawing some of the 1347 01:08:54,110 --> 01:08:48,659 pain she remembers all the hand covering 1348 01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:54,120 her face the hand I I remember the first 1349 01:08:59,120 --> 01:08:56,159 time she mentioned a hinge like a 1350 01:09:02,809 --> 01:08:59,130 chicken feet but covering her face and 1351 01:09:05,209 --> 01:09:02,819 she was scared and the next image to 1352 01:09:08,899 --> 01:09:05,219 remember is somewhere inside a hanger 1353 01:09:12,169 --> 01:09:08,909 and then next in from next to flashbacks 1354 01:09:14,709 --> 01:09:12,179 next image to remember is a lot of 1355 01:09:17,780 --> 01:09:14,719 shadow a lot of people walking around 1356 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:17,790 but they are not really people they're 1357 01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:20,489 not really human you know some human not 1358 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:21,670 walking around her 1359 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:26,530 and she was so scared so we we met a few 1360 01:09:30,780 --> 01:09:29,530 days later and the reason I want to met 1361 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:30,790 up because I want to make sure she is 1362 01:09:35,010 --> 01:09:31,690 not crazy 1363 01:09:37,950 --> 01:09:35,020 and the way she talked is completely 1364 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:37,960 novel as as soon as we talked about a 1365 01:09:42,930 --> 01:09:39,250 UFO she cried 1366 01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:42,940 so we after two months we brought her to 1367 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:49,510 a hypnosis therapy and she is this this 1368 01:09:56,550 --> 01:09:52,810 hypnosis therapist is a very open mind 1369 01:09:58,260 --> 01:09:56,560 lady she promised to do this you never 1370 01:10:00,900 --> 01:09:58,270 really do do that before but she 1371 01:10:03,890 --> 01:10:00,910 promised to try and during the hypnosis 1372 01:10:06,990 --> 01:10:03,900 this woman remembered the missing time 1373 01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:07,000 this woman remember what happened during 1374 01:10:12,270 --> 01:10:09,100 the missing time oh I never mentioned 1375 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:12,280 about a missing time is she was like a 1376 01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:16,090 potato couch she didn't like comes in a 1377 01:10:19,470 --> 01:10:18,910 soft sofa and watching TV that's what 1378 01:10:23,100 --> 01:10:19,480 she does 1379 01:10:27,420 --> 01:10:23,110 every day she remember one day mornings 1380 01:10:31,980 --> 01:10:27,430 you watching TV and program on at home 1381 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:31,990 and it was the program we play at 11:30 1382 01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:34,930 in the morning so she loved this drama 1383 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:36,820 so she keep watching it and keep 1384 01:10:41,460 --> 01:10:38,890 watching it and suddenly she remember 1385 01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:41,470 there were some lights flashing into the 1386 01:10:47,130 --> 01:10:44,770 window from outside so she went out she 1387 01:10:50,190 --> 01:10:47,140 went to the window and tried to take a 1388 01:10:54,770 --> 01:10:50,200 look what's flashing the window and then 1389 01:10:59,520 --> 01:10:54,780 she saw a metal plate like a rectangular 1390 01:11:02,430 --> 01:10:59,530 red metal plate hanging hovering in the 1391 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:02,440 sky nothing on the top hanging this this 1392 01:11:08,370 --> 01:11:05,130 matter but it's like a big piece of 1393 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:08,380 rectangle metal and the corner of the 1394 01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:11,170 red that the metal have a red light 1395 01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:14,050 flashing to the window so she was kind 1396 01:11:19,410 --> 01:11:16,990 of a few weird she doesn't know what she 1397 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:19,420 tried to figure out what that was but 1398 01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:21,610 the light flashing to her so she was 1399 01:11:26,970 --> 01:11:24,220 kind of scared and hiding on a corner of 1400 01:11:29,490 --> 01:11:26,980 the window trying to take a good preview 1401 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:29,500 but also know a little bit like scaring 1402 01:11:34,170 --> 01:11:31,810 and looking and then hiding a look in 1403 01:11:34,939 --> 01:11:34,180 the hiding again so after like two 1404 01:11:38,029 --> 01:11:34,949 minutes 1405 01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:38,039 these things disappear so she realized 1406 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:40,590 okay it's disappeared she doesn't know 1407 01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:43,530 what that was but see she just doesn't 1408 01:11:48,140 --> 01:11:46,320 care so she went back to watching TV and 1409 01:11:51,709 --> 01:11:48,150 realized the program are no longer 1410 01:11:55,009 --> 01:11:51,719 playing it was playing a program at in 1411 01:11:56,899 --> 01:11:55,019 the afternoon so so you look at the 1412 01:12:00,589 --> 01:11:56,909 clocks you realize you had three hours 1413 01:12:02,180 --> 01:12:00,599 missing and that's trigger her really 1414 01:12:04,250 --> 01:12:02,190 scared about whole thing and then the 1415 01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:04,260 next morning she got all these pictures 1416 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:06,510 or all these image and then she decided 1417 01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:08,610 to send me an email she doesn't know me 1418 01:12:14,540 --> 01:12:12,179 at all she just asked her friend what 1419 01:12:16,489 --> 01:12:14,550 should i do what should I do if I have 1420 01:12:18,049 --> 01:12:16,499 something happened like this and her 1421 01:12:19,779 --> 01:12:18,059 friend told him okay you can try to 1422 01:12:22,759 --> 01:12:19,789 write an email to check face because 1423 01:12:25,819 --> 01:12:22,769 Chuck Fay do a lot of UFO research in 1424 01:12:29,060 --> 01:12:25,829 Hong Kong and I'm lucky enough to get 1425 01:12:31,729 --> 01:12:29,070 onto local TV so people knows me so he 1426 01:12:34,549 --> 01:12:31,739 that's why she find me she find my 1427 01:12:36,830 --> 01:12:34,559 contact on Facebook and send me an email 1428 01:12:39,290 --> 01:12:36,840 and that's the story after that and then 1429 01:12:42,529 --> 01:12:39,300 during the hypnosis you remember during 1430 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:42,539 the missing time she actually walked 1431 01:12:49,069 --> 01:12:46,610 through the war and the window and 1432 01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:49,079 standing in the middle of the air so you 1433 01:12:56,689 --> 01:12:53,760 remember a red car and a taxi behind I 1434 01:12:58,069 --> 01:12:56,699 mean I meantime below her feet she was 1435 01:13:02,359 --> 01:12:58,079 standing in the middle of the air and 1436 01:13:05,419 --> 01:13:02,369 she looked up she saw the craft not the 1437 01:13:07,939 --> 01:13:05,429 rectangle plate but a craft a UFO craft 1438 01:13:11,089 --> 01:13:07,949 like a traditional craft on the top of 1439 01:13:12,830 --> 01:13:11,099 her head and then the next memory she 1440 01:13:16,430 --> 01:13:12,840 got is she was already lying on the 1441 01:13:19,699 --> 01:13:16,440 table so you didn't get naked she's just 1442 01:13:25,729 --> 01:13:19,709 wearing what you wear but you remember a 1443 01:13:28,729 --> 01:13:25,739 big metal boxes all the way no sticking 1444 01:13:31,790 --> 01:13:28,739 to her belly boxes she doesn't remember 1445 01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:31,800 terrible experiment and painful and 1446 01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:35,760 people the alien no punching the pin in 1447 01:13:39,469 --> 01:13:37,679 her her head or all these things she 1448 01:13:41,689 --> 01:13:39,479 doesn't remember all these things but 1449 01:13:43,850 --> 01:13:41,699 she remembered a whole time she was 1450 01:13:47,509 --> 01:13:43,860 inside the craft there's a big piece of 1451 01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:47,519 metal box sticking like a bow sticking 1452 01:13:53,770 --> 01:13:48,800 on her belly area 1453 01:13:56,830 --> 01:13:53,780 and so remember the faces of the 1454 01:13:59,250 --> 01:13:56,840 humanoid they were shot but they were 1455 01:14:02,140 --> 01:13:59,260 not Gray's they they have human eyes 1456 01:14:06,399 --> 01:14:02,150 like the ivory if the widen that the 1457 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:06,409 pupils the black area but they kind of 1458 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:09,050 big a head with a lot of Winco on their 1459 01:14:16,209 --> 01:14:13,130 face they're not like a traditional grey 1460 01:14:19,569 --> 01:14:16,219 with big eyes they have small eyes like 1461 01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:19,579 human but they were sharp and they have 1462 01:14:26,260 --> 01:14:23,260 wrinkled face and they're kind of 1463 01:14:28,810 --> 01:14:26,270 everybody every order all these beings 1464 01:14:32,049 --> 01:14:28,820 that looks like the same I remember she 1465 01:14:36,459 --> 01:14:32,059 draw me that just sketching and these 1466 01:14:41,530 --> 01:14:36,469 all these beings are wearing a black or 1467 01:14:45,729 --> 01:14:41,540 a dark grey dress with a hope so they 1468 01:14:47,649 --> 01:14:45,739 can cover their face sometimes well all 1469 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:47,659 these things happen she changed 1470 01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:48,650 completely 1471 01:14:53,530 --> 01:14:51,079 after all this year even now she's to 1472 01:14:56,169 --> 01:14:53,540 have a lot of tangles information 1473 01:14:59,410 --> 01:14:56,179 downloads to her brain and she can tell 1474 01:15:02,859 --> 01:14:59,420 futures you know she can tell me when my 1475 01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:02,869 Pope will finish and launch out we 1476 01:15:08,169 --> 01:15:04,369 supposed to finish the whole book on 1477 01:15:10,149 --> 01:15:08,179 July I was writing the book on March we 1478 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:10,159 supposed to finish the book on July but 1479 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:12,290 I won't be able to finish it and the 1480 01:15:17,020 --> 01:15:15,050 first few days see contact me she said 1481 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:17,030 no your book will not finish no but will 1482 01:15:22,839 --> 01:15:20,210 be finished by the middle of December as 1483 01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:22,849 how do you know said they told me they 1484 01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:25,130 want me to tell you your book will only 1485 01:15:30,129 --> 01:15:27,199 be launched by the middle of December 1486 01:15:32,470 --> 01:15:30,139 that's really what happening because I 1487 01:15:34,629 --> 01:15:32,480 finished my book by November end of 1488 01:15:37,089 --> 01:15:34,639 November and then they sent it to the 1489 01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:37,099 mainland to China to print it and by the 1490 01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:39,710 time the book arrived the bookstore it 1491 01:15:44,890 --> 01:15:42,710 was 18th of December I said how do you 1492 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:44,900 know that said she said I don't know but 1493 01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:48,050 they told me they told me they tell me 1494 01:15:54,399 --> 01:15:50,510 to tell you your book will not finish 1495 01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:54,409 and then after a few years she seems 1496 01:16:00,399 --> 01:15:57,199 nice you can tell what's about to happen 1497 01:16:02,740 --> 01:16:00,409 in the future so I mean I mean I don't 1498 01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:02,750 know how but this guy this ladies 1499 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:04,310 completely changed now she is not 1500 01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:08,530 watching TV anymore Zeus is focusing on 1501 01:16:15,820 --> 01:16:12,830 quantum physics it's focusing on Cosmo 1502 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:15,830 physics is focusing on religion focusing 1503 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:21,250 on this the society and the human life 1504 01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:24,730 focusing on the conspiracy focusing on 1505 01:16:29,710 --> 01:16:28,490 any more rights so I don't know how to 1506 01:16:32,890 --> 01:16:29,720 change all this 1507 01:16:34,470 --> 01:16:32,900 and I I tried to get proof you know it 1508 01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,480 quantum physics I know nothing about 1509 01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:37,040 quantum physics oh by the way she finish 1510 01:16:43,450 --> 01:16:40,640 tell me what she knew I tried to get the 1511 01:16:46,030 --> 01:16:43,460 proof from a professor from a university 1512 01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:46,040 and this professor told me whatever she 1513 01:16:53,410 --> 01:16:50,480 said is completely completely in the 1514 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:53,420 book so I don't know how she got all 1515 01:16:57,580 --> 01:16:55,130 this information but she told me keep 1516 01:17:00,900 --> 01:16:57,590 telling me all this information are down 1517 01:17:05,010 --> 01:17:00,910 low from the alien who had taught her 1518 01:17:07,630 --> 01:17:05,020 that's something I cannot explain taste 1519 01:17:10,210 --> 01:17:07,640 that's interesting I had a conversation 1520 01:17:13,650 --> 01:17:10,220 with Kathy Martin you know she's the 1521 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:13,660 niece oh yeah you know she is yeah and 1522 01:17:18,580 --> 01:17:16,250 she this was a few years ago and she 1523 01:17:20,860 --> 01:17:18,590 said that you know a number of people 1524 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:20,870 are saying that they that are being 1525 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:23,450 abducted that say they they feel like 1526 01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,970 they go right through the walls and she 1527 01:17:30,850 --> 01:17:27,920 said in which i think is pretty bizarre 1528 01:17:33,220 --> 01:17:30,860 you know for sure and she said that 1529 01:17:35,470 --> 01:17:33,230 she's talked to physicists and said I 1530 01:17:37,150 --> 01:17:35,480 had a certain vibration you know 1531 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:37,160 something like this can happen which is 1532 01:17:42,340 --> 01:17:40,130 I don't know that's it's pretty wild 1533 01:17:44,260 --> 01:17:42,350 stories but it's it's still interesting 1534 01:17:46,570 --> 01:17:44,270 I'm not sure if there's actually 1535 01:17:50,380 --> 01:17:46,580 anything to it but you never know it's 1536 01:17:53,620 --> 01:17:50,390 it's a it's just another mystery in the 1537 01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:53,630 chatroom dickered dog wanted to know if 1538 01:17:58,360 --> 01:17:55,910 there's any place in China that similar 1539 01:17:59,950 --> 01:17:58,370 to like the skinwalker ranch were you 1540 01:18:03,220 --> 01:17:59,960 know maybe a hot spot or a lot of 1541 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:03,230 paranormal activity going on anyplace 1542 01:18:09,730 --> 01:18:06,530 well I have I actually when when to the 1543 01:18:13,090 --> 01:18:09,740 gate of skinwalker range in last October 1544 01:18:16,270 --> 01:18:13,100 Wow and you was so scary you know scare 1545 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:16,280 myself and even have a little weird 1546 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:21,010 experience after that but in China I 1547 01:18:27,790 --> 01:18:25,250 don't I don't know about places no in 1548 01:18:28,540 --> 01:18:27,800 skinwalker range people describe its for 1549 01:18:31,900 --> 01:18:28,550 via Pato 1550 01:18:35,020 --> 01:18:31,910 where all these Bigfoot all these alien 1551 01:18:39,190 --> 01:18:35,030 audience paranormal happens you know 1552 01:18:41,890 --> 01:18:39,200 monsters and and unbelievable shape of 1553 01:18:46,690 --> 01:18:41,900 UFO happening in skinwalker range but in 1554 01:18:48,820 --> 01:18:46,700 China I I doubt okay I never really 1555 01:18:51,820 --> 01:18:48,830 heard about story about that but even if 1556 01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:51,830 they have even your China have a place 1557 01:19:01,180 --> 01:18:55,520 like this because of involving on 1558 01:19:05,530 --> 01:19:01,190 paranormal involving on something way 1559 01:19:07,330 --> 01:19:05,540 way to press on to the government so 1560 01:19:09,190 --> 01:19:07,340 even if they have a place like this they 1561 01:19:12,220 --> 01:19:09,200 won't be able to tell they won't be able 1562 01:19:15,190 --> 01:19:12,230 to talk about it but I don't remember 1563 01:19:18,670 --> 01:19:15,200 I read any thing about a skinwalker 1564 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:18,680 range story in China but I can tell a 1565 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:22,250 little weird experience after I visit 1566 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:25,250 the skinwalker range the gate we went to 1567 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:28,730 film something in local TV here and we 1568 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:30,410 went to the state actually we went to 1569 01:19:36,820 --> 01:19:33,530 the state to West Virginia Ohio trying 1570 01:19:39,490 --> 01:19:36,830 to find Bigfoot and you know Mothman 1571 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:39,500 festival and pheromones the festival and 1572 01:19:47,770 --> 01:19:42,290 all that we went to skinwalker range 1573 01:19:51,100 --> 01:19:47,780 Newton and people were scared people who 1574 01:19:53,530 --> 01:19:51,110 live in area scare you know we went to a 1575 01:19:58,690 --> 01:19:53,540 supermarket and trying to find people 1576 01:20:00,610 --> 01:19:58,700 talk about it and and then to Native 1577 01:20:03,370 --> 01:20:00,620 American lady who works in the 1578 01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:03,380 supermarket we speak English and we ask 1579 01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:05,030 them whether you know anything talk 1580 01:20:10,810 --> 01:20:07,850 about a skinwalker range and they were 1581 01:20:12,700 --> 01:20:10,820 kind of scared and trying to whisper to 1582 01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:12,710 us and said no we don't really talk 1583 01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:14,810 about it because when we talk about it 1584 01:20:20,590 --> 01:20:17,120 we believe the bent locks a bad thing 1585 01:20:23,950 --> 01:20:20,600 will happen to us so that's it so she 1586 01:20:27,910 --> 01:20:23,960 just basically reject our questions so 1587 01:20:29,259 --> 01:20:27,920 that's fine and okay we respect that and 1588 01:20:31,299 --> 01:20:29,269 then we standing 1589 01:20:34,180 --> 01:20:31,309 sigh and waiting what to do talking 1590 01:20:37,169 --> 01:20:34,190 discussing what to do and we can see 1591 01:20:40,660 --> 01:20:37,179 this girl speaking by the language 1592 01:20:44,169 --> 01:20:40,670 themself and the way they talked they 1593 01:20:47,350 --> 01:20:44,179 obviously discussing about the justice 1594 01:20:50,169 --> 01:20:47,360 the cases the story in skinwalker range 1595 01:20:52,419 --> 01:20:50,179 and I remember they giving this gesture 1596 01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:52,429 what note the whole group of girls 1597 01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:55,010 talking to each other in their language 1598 01:21:00,459 --> 01:20:57,920 which we don't know but did you can tell 1599 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:00,469 their faces that the expressions their 1600 01:21:07,209 --> 01:21:02,570 gesture they're actually talking about 1601 01:21:09,879 --> 01:21:07,219 we're story in the skinwalker range so 1602 01:21:13,049 --> 01:21:09,889 after the whistling after the female I 1603 01:21:16,450 --> 01:21:13,059 went back to the hotel and sleep and 1604 01:21:19,390 --> 01:21:16,460 people who sleep in there next next to 1605 01:21:22,180 --> 01:21:19,400 get with me and one of the film crew 1606 01:21:25,979 --> 01:21:22,190 sleeping in the same room and I was 1607 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:25,989 sleeping and the whole night the whole 1608 01:21:32,890 --> 01:21:29,530 night even until to the next morning 1609 01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:32,900 there are science whispering next to my 1610 01:21:38,770 --> 01:21:35,710 ear I thought at first I thought it was 1611 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:38,780 people in the next room playing radio or 1612 01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:41,449 praying us having a conversation with 1613 01:21:47,049 --> 01:21:44,510 somebody but the thing is I don't 1614 01:21:50,620 --> 01:21:47,059 understand what the boys talking about 1615 01:21:52,330 --> 01:21:50,630 but the voice is talking and stop think 1616 01:21:55,509 --> 01:21:52,340 about it when you listen to your radio 1617 01:21:58,379 --> 01:21:55,519 they have stopping their break time they 1618 01:22:01,540 --> 01:21:58,389 have commercials when people's 1619 01:22:03,729 --> 01:22:01,550 conversation with friends know they're 1620 01:22:06,339 --> 01:22:03,739 stopping know they're people who stop 1621 01:22:08,140 --> 01:22:06,349 and then the other person who'd join the 1622 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:08,150 conversation but it's nothing like that 1623 01:22:14,379 --> 01:22:11,090 it seems like a curse somebody was 1624 01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:14,389 cursing next to my ear my right ear all 1625 01:22:19,899 --> 01:22:17,329 night all night until the next morning 1626 01:22:22,299 --> 01:22:19,909 when I get up and the sounds keep 1627 01:22:26,109 --> 01:22:22,309 happening in my years and then I got 1628 01:22:30,189 --> 01:22:26,119 really sick after that and the whole 1629 01:22:32,319 --> 01:22:30,199 film crew got sick after that and and 1630 01:22:35,049 --> 01:22:32,329 there was lucky there was almost the 1631 01:22:37,589 --> 01:22:35,059 last few days of the filming in three 1632 01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:37,599 weeks so there was the last section so 1633 01:22:45,879 --> 01:22:41,840 everybody get back Hong Kong with with 1634 01:22:48,180 --> 01:22:45,889 fluor may be fever and everybody got 1635 01:22:51,879 --> 01:22:48,190 sick after the skinwalker range with it 1636 01:22:56,319 --> 01:22:51,889 so that is my experience and I feel 1637 01:23:00,089 --> 01:22:56,329 really really some kind of dark energy 1638 01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:00,099 and that area surrounding that area so 1639 01:23:08,759 --> 01:23:06,800 we I'm scare myself well that's 1640 01:23:11,290 --> 01:23:08,769 something that is really something else 1641 01:23:12,549 --> 01:23:11,300 another question in the chat room 1642 01:23:16,989 --> 01:23:12,559 someone wanted to know if there's 1643 01:23:21,219 --> 01:23:16,999 anything like the we have here area 51 1644 01:23:23,919 --> 01:23:21,229 do do you have any experimental you know 1645 01:23:25,330 --> 01:23:23,929 military aircraft areas that are 1646 01:23:28,540 --> 01:23:25,340 top-secret or is that something you 1647 01:23:31,419 --> 01:23:28,550 would never even know about I believe 1648 01:23:35,259 --> 01:23:31,429 they have but I'm not sure whether they 1649 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:35,269 have they well in the way love North 1650 01:23:44,020 --> 01:23:38,570 Area what I thought I was told there is 1651 01:23:46,959 --> 01:23:44,030 an area there is in a secret place like 1652 01:23:50,140 --> 01:23:46,969 probably like an Air Force or like like 1653 01:23:53,169 --> 01:23:50,150 a military base but it's similar to air 1654 01:23:57,370 --> 01:23:53,179 for area 51 people have signing over 1655 01:23:59,410 --> 01:23:57,380 there but the government and at well at 1656 01:24:03,009 --> 01:23:59,420 first the people never really asked and 1657 01:24:05,609 --> 01:24:03,019 the government never really tell so we 1658 01:24:08,709 --> 01:24:05,619 as but in during the UFO research 1659 01:24:10,989 --> 01:24:08,719 researchers in China and Hong Kong we 1660 01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:10,999 believe are places like this but the 1661 01:24:21,129 --> 01:24:13,880 government never ever really talks about 1662 01:24:23,049 --> 01:24:21,139 it hmm yeah I bet now what about you 1663 01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:23,059 know we have uh we have a TV show here 1664 01:24:27,850 --> 01:24:24,170 I'm sure you're very familiar with 1665 01:24:33,759 --> 01:24:27,860 ancient aliens yeah is there any talk in 1666 01:24:35,890 --> 01:24:33,769 China about you know Asian alien ancient 1667 01:24:38,620 --> 01:24:35,900 you know type things going on somehow oh 1668 01:24:40,870 --> 01:24:38,630 and my phone just heard me say Siri 1669 01:24:42,009 --> 01:24:40,880 somehow and just went went wild here 1670 01:24:43,540 --> 01:24:42,019 yeah 1671 01:24:49,089 --> 01:24:43,550 is there any any talk about you know 1672 01:24:51,029 --> 01:24:49,099 ancient cases of UFOs or old more most 1673 01:24:54,230 --> 01:24:51,039 of the people who don't know that China 1674 01:24:58,030 --> 01:24:54,240 Chinese people we all 1675 01:25:01,610 --> 01:24:58,040 believe we our ancestors are dragon and 1676 01:25:05,930 --> 01:25:01,620 according to a lot of reports a lot of 1677 01:25:09,350 --> 01:25:05,940 writing a lot of articles from all these 1678 01:25:12,980 --> 01:25:09,360 thousand years back then this I mean the 1679 01:25:16,730 --> 01:25:12,990 old Asian Chinese have a lot of UFO 1680 01:25:20,210 --> 01:25:16,740 sighting and I don't know whether you 1681 01:25:22,340 --> 01:25:20,220 heard about a duper dis they're in 1682 01:25:26,750 --> 01:25:22,350 somewhere in Norfolk duper dis that 1683 01:25:30,140 --> 01:25:26,760 people find out some dis like a like 1684 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:30,150 like an album dis like like a shape o 1685 01:25:34,940 --> 01:25:32,850 circle like underground right they found 1686 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:34,950 these underground or something it's 1687 01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:37,530 funny underscore ah underground and they 1688 01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:41,520 find some kind of writing on it and not 1689 01:25:47,420 --> 01:25:43,650 writing on it and writing next to it and 1690 01:25:50,540 --> 01:25:47,430 the writing that actually report the 1691 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:50,550 ugly person ugly people they called it 1692 01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:53,730 ugly because they were sawed and ugly so 1693 01:26:01,310 --> 01:25:56,330 ugly in the sense they look we're so 1694 01:26:05,150 --> 01:26:01,320 ugly people who arrived to this this 1695 01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:05,160 area and leaving on the ground and then 1696 01:26:12,980 --> 01:26:08,850 they have walls and then and then they I 1697 01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:12,990 mean these people actually made we have 1698 01:26:20,650 --> 01:26:16,110 some of the village woman and then they 1699 01:26:23,990 --> 01:26:20,660 believe there they were the ancestors of 1700 01:26:25,850 --> 01:26:24,000 this area and I mean put it is when it 1701 01:26:29,180 --> 01:26:25,860 happens many many years ago so they 1702 01:26:34,790 --> 01:26:29,190 believe they have alien blood bloodline 1703 01:26:38,510 --> 01:26:34,800 in their in their body we I remember we 1704 01:26:42,260 --> 01:26:38,520 have the first emperor we call it yellow 1705 01:26:47,540 --> 01:26:42,270 the first emperor is arrived from the 1706 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:47,550 sky and he fly away he go away when he 1707 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,010 finishes work or this year after after 1708 01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:52,560 like probably 20 years or something he 1709 01:27:00,290 --> 01:26:57,840 fly away with a craft and people don't 1710 01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:00,300 want him to go so people actually ran 1711 01:27:07,939 --> 01:27:03,360 and follow this this Yellow Emperor and 1712 01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:07,949 then they they they try to pull him back 1713 01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:10,800 but he thought they can do they can pull 1714 01:27:18,530 --> 01:27:15,570 his clove but himself or go away with 1715 01:27:22,490 --> 01:27:18,540 the craft up all the way to the sky so I 1716 01:27:28,209 --> 01:27:22,500 think in a China in a Chinese person 1717 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:28,219 they basically believed we were we 1718 01:27:34,490 --> 01:27:31,050 almost of the Chinese have the bloodline 1719 01:27:36,770 --> 01:27:34,500 from the from the alien but they don't 1720 01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:36,780 have the word aliens back then they they 1721 01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:40,290 use the networks like fairies they use 1722 01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:44,250 the word like like kind of the corners 1723 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:48,540 and and all this and sister but they all 1724 01:27:55,580 --> 01:27:51,810 come from the sky so I think I think in 1725 01:27:58,820 --> 01:27:55,590 China most of the Chinese believe we we 1726 01:28:01,729 --> 01:27:58,830 all have alien blood and that's why when 1727 01:28:04,430 --> 01:28:01,739 I talked to Giorgio the other day many - 1728 01:28:07,970 --> 01:28:04,440 couple of years ago he said wow I really 1729 01:28:11,270 --> 01:28:07,980 want to do some research on a China area 1730 01:28:16,939 --> 01:28:11,280 because Chinese have a lot of long 1731 01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:16,949 history and with alien oh by the way we 1732 01:28:25,790 --> 01:28:20,910 have a cases like in the forest pretty 1733 01:28:29,380 --> 01:28:25,800 much like like the cases in Russia the 1734 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:29,390 people remember sawing a train a train 1735 01:28:38,630 --> 01:28:34,050 like like a steam like a steam steam 1736 01:28:43,580 --> 01:28:38,640 train and arrived from the sky and swap 1737 01:28:46,790 --> 01:28:43,590 like a hundred acre of trees in the 1738 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:46,800 forest and then they defy way but by the 1739 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:49,530 time it fly away is kind of magnetic and 1740 01:28:56,090 --> 01:28:53,370 it actually you know attract some of the 1741 01:28:59,720 --> 01:28:56,100 met Oh some of the truck on the on the 1742 01:29:02,060 --> 01:28:59,730 ground and the truck will go front 1743 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:02,070 without a driver without a engine start 1744 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:05,610 but a truck go to front like about it 1745 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:09,810 drive 12 meters ahead but no driver in 1746 01:29:16,189 --> 01:29:13,530 there in because it happens when the UFO 1747 01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:16,199 distrain fly away it seems like some 1748 01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:18,810 kind of magnetic and attract the metal 1749 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:21,040 and attract the truck and 1750 01:29:27,870 --> 01:29:24,570 who'da truck - works like 12 meters and 1751 01:29:30,420 --> 01:29:27,880 this is also reported and the forest now 1752 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:30,430 even the forest right now he still the 1753 01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:32,770 trees are still down and in China 1754 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:34,450 government actually put a banner in 1755 01:29:42,150 --> 01:29:37,890 there and a banner with alien faces with 1756 01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:42,160 UFOs with a lot of wordings and asking 1757 01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:44,050 people if you saw anything like that 1758 01:29:51,900 --> 01:29:48,610 please report to the government that was 1759 01:29:54,180 --> 01:29:51,910 a question I had for you actually you 1760 01:29:55,440 --> 01:29:54,190 can actually report right directly to 1761 01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:55,450 the government I was gonna ask you about 1762 01:30:02,130 --> 01:29:58,410 UFO reporting in China what that's like 1763 01:30:04,140 --> 01:30:02,140 well usually when people saw the UFOs 1764 01:30:07,650 --> 01:30:04,150 these days they put it up to their 1765 01:30:10,050 --> 01:30:07,660 social media the back end before the 1766 01:30:13,470 --> 01:30:10,060 internet people report it to the 1767 01:30:16,890 --> 01:30:13,480 policeman and it's somehow we we're 1768 01:30:19,830 --> 01:30:16,900 somehow the policemen when you report a 1769 01:30:21,450 --> 01:30:19,840 case to a policeman and suppose you case 1770 01:30:25,350 --> 01:30:21,460 will go to the government but it's 1771 01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:25,360 somehow some UFO research center from 1772 01:30:29,340 --> 01:30:27,730 Beijing will send their researchers come 1773 01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:29,350 now so it's pretty much the same case 1774 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:31,450 like what you can see on the project 1775 01:30:36,150 --> 01:30:33,730 Bluebook you know the sort in UFO you 1776 01:30:40,140 --> 01:30:36,160 report it to the chef and then somehow 1777 01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,150 the military will send two guys in your 1778 01:30:47,580 --> 01:30:43,120 area and do some questionnaire do some 1779 01:30:49,710 --> 01:30:47,590 questions and and and and research and 1780 01:30:52,590 --> 01:30:49,720 do some investigating so it's pretty 1781 01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:52,600 much the same thing I believe that's why 1782 01:30:58,980 --> 01:30:55,120 I believe and most people believe that 1783 01:31:01,260 --> 01:30:58,990 UFO research society are so connected to 1784 01:31:03,450 --> 01:31:01,270 the government so when you report a case 1785 01:31:06,330 --> 01:31:03,460 to a policeman and the policeman goes up 1786 01:31:09,030 --> 01:31:06,340 to you for PTO military and then to the 1787 01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:09,040 government and the government will will 1788 01:31:14,130 --> 01:31:11,920 assign some researchers coming to your 1789 01:31:18,090 --> 01:31:14,140 area and do research that's what it 1790 01:31:20,550 --> 01:31:18,100 happens before interesting Wow 1791 01:31:25,110 --> 01:31:20,560 so two people actually you mentioned 1792 01:31:28,020 --> 01:31:25,120 earlier that someone knew that you did 1793 01:31:29,940 --> 01:31:28,030 UFO research in Hong Kong and you're on 1794 01:31:33,690 --> 01:31:29,950 TV or on some of the show's over there 1795 01:31:34,050 --> 01:31:33,700 but do people contact you quite often in 1796 01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:34,060 regard 1797 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:37,290 - you know either abduction or UFO cases 1798 01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:41,050 yeah yes yes they the content you move 1799 01:31:48,570 --> 01:31:44,950 quite often I I have UFO sighting report 1800 01:31:50,820 --> 01:31:48,580 almost every week every week in Hong 1801 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:50,830 Kong of course some of them can explain 1802 01:31:54,990 --> 01:31:52,570 you know some of them like the plane and 1803 01:31:57,870 --> 01:31:55,000 some of them probably some phenomenon 1804 01:32:01,830 --> 01:31:57,880 because of just the crowd sunset and all 1805 01:32:02,610 --> 01:32:01,840 that thing but some cases is hard to 1806 01:32:07,110 --> 01:32:02,620 explain 1807 01:32:12,930 --> 01:32:07,120 you know we shed any we often Lehrer see 1808 01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:12,940 if a we're light flying in the sky at 1809 01:32:18,750 --> 01:32:15,250 first people think maybe the spotlight 1810 01:32:21,150 --> 01:32:18,760 from from a China area because I'm 1811 01:32:23,580 --> 01:32:21,160 leaving so close to China the border of 1812 01:32:26,550 --> 01:32:23,590 between Hong Kong and China 1813 01:32:30,300 --> 01:32:26,560 at first we all believe is some kind of 1814 01:32:33,630 --> 01:32:30,310 light in show no the light show in in a 1815 01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:33,640 mainland but then more and more reports 1816 01:32:44,070 --> 01:32:38,920 arrive we have Seger shape UFO we saw 1817 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:44,080 people who saw this shape with lights or 1818 01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:47,290 without lights sometimes we saw us all 1819 01:32:52,530 --> 01:32:49,750 know things fly up from the from the 1820 01:32:55,170 --> 01:32:52,540 ocean I actually do investigate I worked 1821 01:32:58,050 --> 01:32:55,180 actually went to talk to the one of the 1822 01:33:02,100 --> 01:32:58,060 the owner of a boat he he basically 1823 01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:02,110 owned two boats and he drive the ball 1824 01:33:09,990 --> 01:33:05,650 out for fishing or for partying for at 1825 01:33:12,630 --> 01:33:10,000 during weekend one of the guy told me my 1826 01:33:17,430 --> 01:33:12,640 the captain told me they saw the UFO in 1827 01:33:20,730 --> 01:33:17,440 the area in in somewhere close to the 1828 01:33:23,550 --> 01:33:20,740 Hong Kong Airport so I actually went to 1829 01:33:26,610 --> 01:33:23,560 talk to the captain the captain at first 1830 01:33:29,370 --> 01:33:26,620 refused he told me because he thing is 1831 01:33:33,930 --> 01:33:29,380 silly anyway but he saw it he saw these 1832 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:33,940 craft just summon II just fly up from 1833 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:36,570 this from the water from the ocean and 1834 01:33:43,290 --> 01:33:40,570 it was like like a half-second and it 1835 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:43,300 pumps all the way all the way up to the 1836 01:33:47,980 --> 01:33:46,330 sky and disappear Wow and I and then I 1837 01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:47,990 first think why 1838 01:33:52,570 --> 01:33:49,910 why does he have to lie to me he doesn't 1839 01:33:55,150 --> 01:33:52,580 even want to tell me at first unless I 1840 01:33:59,470 --> 01:33:55,160 until I keep asking keep asking and then 1841 01:34:01,450 --> 01:33:59,480 he decided to tell me and then during 1842 01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:01,460 about the same time one of my audience 1843 01:34:08,110 --> 01:34:05,690 who work in that area and he went out 1844 01:34:10,290 --> 01:34:08,120 your building to smoke and then when he 1845 01:34:13,150 --> 01:34:10,300 went out to smoke he saw a green light 1846 01:34:16,570 --> 01:34:13,160 shine enough from the from the ocean 1847 01:34:19,780 --> 01:34:16,580 itself and then lights moving really 1848 01:34:22,450 --> 01:34:19,790 fast under the water because they can 1849 01:34:25,330 --> 01:34:22,460 see the green light in one area and he's 1850 01:34:28,990 --> 01:34:25,340 suddenly moving really fast like like 1851 01:34:31,690 --> 01:34:29,000 one second to another side and then stop 1852 01:34:34,660 --> 01:34:31,700 for like five or five seconds and then 1853 01:34:37,930 --> 01:34:34,670 move to another area he said there was 1854 01:34:41,830 --> 01:34:37,940 no way something can drive so fast under 1855 01:34:44,860 --> 01:34:41,840 the water with the green light so I 1856 01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:44,870 believe there are so many so many 1857 01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:48,320 sighting so many cases in Hong Kong and 1858 01:34:54,220 --> 01:34:50,510 China is just that people don't really 1859 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:54,230 talk about it right right well I've been 1860 01:34:59,200 --> 01:34:57,170 at a number of conferences where the 1861 01:35:01,870 --> 01:34:59,210 audience has been asked you know how 1862 01:35:04,900 --> 01:35:01,880 many people here had a UFO sighting and 1863 01:35:07,510 --> 01:35:04,910 you know all great deal of people will 1864 01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:07,520 hold up their hands and then the the 1865 01:35:11,620 --> 01:35:09,290 person will ask okay how many people 1866 01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:11,630 reported your sighting and it's only 1867 01:35:16,780 --> 01:35:14,570 like 10% and you know I had a sighting 1868 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:16,790 and I attempted to report it I didn't 1869 01:35:20,850 --> 01:35:18,050 know I called the police department I 1870 01:35:23,380 --> 01:35:20,860 didn't know what to do and but anyway 1871 01:35:26,620 --> 01:35:23,390 it's a very small percentage of people 1872 01:35:30,130 --> 01:35:26,630 that actually go that to that level do 1873 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:30,140 you have is there I should know this but 1874 01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:32,770 I don't is there is there MUFON 1875 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:35,990 capability and in your area can their 1876 01:35:41,410 --> 01:35:38,530 people connect it to move on yeah I 1877 01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:41,420 actually get on to to move on to 1878 01:35:47,350 --> 01:35:45,290 database a couple of years ago I 1879 01:35:50,260 --> 01:35:47,360 realized they have a chapter in Hong 1880 01:35:53,890 --> 01:35:50,270 Kong I actually even talked to some of 1881 01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:53,900 the super wise and move on and I want to 1882 01:35:58,330 --> 01:35:56,210 find out who is this guy who dealing 1883 01:36:00,700 --> 01:35:58,340 with the Hong Kong UFO cases and move on 1884 01:36:01,869 --> 01:36:00,710 they have a chapter they have their 1885 01:36:05,859 --> 01:36:01,879 section but 1886 01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:05,869 the cases they report is really weird 1887 01:36:11,020 --> 01:36:08,320 and just only a few cases 1888 01:36:14,679 --> 01:36:11,030 not many people knows how to report to 1889 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:14,689 move on before the social media even now 1890 01:36:21,849 --> 01:36:19,489 even now even now I'm I'm in in the list 1891 01:36:23,739 --> 01:36:21,859 of the UFO few in Hong Kong people and 1892 01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:23,749 when they saw it exciting they only 1893 01:36:31,330 --> 01:36:29,510 reported to me by Facebook by by by 1894 01:36:35,049 --> 01:36:31,340 social media but they don't really 1895 01:36:38,009 --> 01:36:35,059 report it to officers or to any society 1896 01:36:40,899 --> 01:36:38,019 because they don't know how to do it and 1897 01:36:44,770 --> 01:36:40,909 also they have to fill in in English is 1898 01:36:47,529 --> 01:36:44,780 not easier for them but it move on one 1899 01:36:52,859 --> 01:36:47,539 of the important case in MUFON database 1900 01:36:57,310 --> 01:36:52,869 is people saw as 100 more than 140 feet 1901 01:36:59,919 --> 01:36:57,320 single shape craft parking right outside 1902 01:37:03,939 --> 01:36:59,929 of the building parking right outside of 1903 01:37:06,609 --> 01:37:03,949 the building he thought he was crazy but 1904 01:37:09,129 --> 01:37:06,619 he told the taxi driver he well they did 1905 01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:09,139 they were in the traffic jam and this 1906 01:37:14,199 --> 01:37:11,840 guy sitting in the car and waiting 1907 01:37:16,239 --> 01:37:14,209 because the car traffickers are totally 1908 01:37:18,580 --> 01:37:16,249 jammed up so he's in the car and he saw 1909 01:37:20,529 --> 01:37:18,590 something really far on the other side 1910 01:37:24,310 --> 01:37:20,539 of the sky which is a shake seeker shape 1911 01:37:27,159 --> 01:37:24,320 and then after like five minutes of the 1912 01:37:29,469 --> 01:37:27,169 jamming and he suddenly saw this craft 1913 01:37:33,009 --> 01:37:29,479 parking right outside a commercial 1914 01:37:36,069 --> 01:37:33,019 building really close and at first he 1915 01:37:37,750 --> 01:37:36,079 couldn't believe his eyes he even asked 1916 01:37:40,659 --> 01:37:37,760 the taxi driver what did when was that 1917 01:37:42,369 --> 01:37:40,669 and the taxi drivers look at it and said 1918 01:37:44,649 --> 01:37:42,379 now I don't know what that was and then 1919 01:37:47,290 --> 01:37:44,659 he seems like he forgot about the whole 1920 01:37:49,089 --> 01:37:47,300 thing's pretty similar to most of the 1921 01:37:51,729 --> 01:37:49,099 phenomenon people who saw something and 1922 01:37:54,879 --> 01:37:51,739 believe and they decided to ignore it so 1923 01:37:57,489 --> 01:37:54,889 this driver carry on to drive so he 1924 01:37:59,649 --> 01:37:57,499 reported this case to move on you can 1925 01:38:02,619 --> 01:37:59,659 find this on the MUFON database but 1926 01:38:06,040 --> 01:38:02,629 after few years we realized they were 1927 01:38:08,770 --> 01:38:06,050 one guy who work inside commercial 1928 01:38:11,049 --> 01:38:08,780 building he reported to move on he said 1929 01:38:13,389 --> 01:38:11,059 he saw something parking right outside 1930 01:38:15,670 --> 01:38:13,399 the building two of them don't know each 1931 01:38:17,470 --> 01:38:15,680 other even up to now I know 1932 01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:17,480 but two of them don't know each other 1933 01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:20,530 but this seems like their testimony can 1934 01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:25,280 prove what the other person's testimony 1935 01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:27,550 and they were at the same day same time 1936 01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:32,810 so we have to witness on the big huge 1937 01:38:38,470 --> 01:38:34,930 seagull shape parking outside building 1938 01:38:42,490 --> 01:38:38,480 it move on database Wow Wow 1939 01:38:44,170 --> 01:38:42,500 now is sir is there any GOP you know do 1940 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:44,180 you know what the word geo blocking is 1941 01:38:50,170 --> 01:38:45,530 when it comes to websites and things 1942 01:38:52,270 --> 01:38:50,180 like that is there you is there is that 1943 01:38:54,090 --> 01:38:52,280 active and I heard that was active in 1944 01:38:57,070 --> 01:38:54,100 China I don't know if it still is but 1945 01:38:59,530 --> 01:38:57,080 that people will block websites from 1946 01:39:03,070 --> 01:38:59,540 other parts of the world does that 1947 01:39:06,190 --> 01:39:03,080 happen in China or or in it happen in 1948 01:39:09,610 --> 01:39:06,200 China but not Hong Kong in Hong Kong 1949 01:39:12,330 --> 01:39:09,620 China people cannot see YouTube and not 1950 01:39:15,010 --> 01:39:12,340 go to Google Wow 1951 01:39:18,430 --> 01:39:15,020 well where people people have their way 1952 01:39:22,210 --> 01:39:18,440 to SS but not off easily now obviously 1953 01:39:25,650 --> 01:39:22,220 they block Google's they block YouTube 1954 01:39:28,750 --> 01:39:25,660 they block Facebook they block traders 1955 01:39:32,650 --> 01:39:28,760 all the social media Instagram they all 1956 01:39:35,290 --> 01:39:32,660 block it but people still able to do it 1957 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:35,300 if they want to with a VPN server or 1958 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:35,690 something 1959 01:39:40,420 --> 01:39:37,690 yeah we P and all these things they are 1960 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:40,430 the people China people are really good 1961 01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:43,250 at this there's no way you can keep the 1962 01:39:47,470 --> 01:39:45,710 information out from them then if they 1963 01:39:50,290 --> 01:39:47,480 want to know they have a best way they 1964 01:39:52,690 --> 01:39:50,300 have the fastest way to know and the 1965 01:39:55,060 --> 01:39:52,700 technology are really super they can 1966 01:39:56,710 --> 01:39:55,070 assess anywhere but only for the 1967 01:39:59,860 --> 01:39:56,720 government you cannot get there you 1968 01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:59,870 cannot arrive officially but in Hong 1969 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:01,520 Kong is different Hong Kong we can go 1970 01:40:06,580 --> 01:40:04,730 anywhere everywhere Wow 1971 01:40:08,110 --> 01:40:06,590 so it's just someone was asking why they 1972 01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:08,120 do that and it's basically just a 1973 01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:10,490 control a control thing really you know 1974 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:13,370 simple simple answers to control you 1975 01:40:17,050 --> 01:40:15,290 know as about why North Korea people 1976 01:40:19,630 --> 01:40:17,060 don't know anything about her world 1977 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:19,640 that's because they have to control they 1978 01:40:25,780 --> 01:40:22,130 have to control people and they was so 1979 01:40:29,170 --> 01:40:25,790 worried about my people the mindset will 1980 01:40:29,950 --> 01:40:29,180 being changed by the whole world so 1981 01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:29,960 that's why 1982 01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:32,570 I'm talking about a UFO cases they allow 1983 01:40:39,430 --> 01:40:36,110 us to office only they allow us to study 1984 01:40:42,850 --> 01:40:39,440 the technology study the phenomenon but 1985 01:40:46,780 --> 01:40:42,860 you we won't be able to deeply involve 1986 01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:46,790 into the spiritual or the you know what 1987 01:40:51,900 --> 01:40:48,650 happened to the people's mind about all 1988 01:40:55,620 --> 01:40:51,910 this download is pretty much a taboo in 1989 01:40:59,979 --> 01:40:55,630 in China but in Hong Kong we are fine 1990 01:41:03,100 --> 01:40:59,989 well yeah that is that is amazing that 1991 01:41:05,770 --> 01:41:03,110 there's that divide really is something 1992 01:41:10,060 --> 01:41:05,780 else you know we're almost out of time 1993 01:41:11,950 --> 01:41:10,070 here now what do you consider your just 1994 01:41:16,780 --> 01:41:11,960 since you're talking to an American here 1995 01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,790 what's your favorite American case my 1996 01:41:21,820 --> 01:41:19,040 favorite American case there's so many 1997 01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:21,830 cases in them it happens in the States 1998 01:41:26,890 --> 01:41:24,410 and because I keep coming up to the 1999 01:41:31,540 --> 01:41:26,900 States almost every year really well 2000 01:41:36,209 --> 01:41:31,550 good for you oh yes I come I went a few 2001 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:36,219 times of a conference in the in the West 2002 01:41:40,959 --> 01:41:38,570 contact in the desert and I know of 2003 01:41:43,870 --> 01:41:40,969 these people and do research and do 2004 01:41:48,430 --> 01:41:43,880 interview with peoples and so many cases 2005 01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:48,440 but I actually brought Travis Walton to 2006 01:41:56,830 --> 01:41:53,690 Hong Kong right now and sharing his 2007 01:41:59,290 --> 01:41:56,840 story yeah and I actually two years 2008 01:42:03,490 --> 01:41:59,300 before before I brought him to Hong Kong 2009 01:42:05,770 --> 01:42:03,500 I actually fly to Arizona to snowflake 2010 01:42:07,690 --> 01:42:05,780 to have contact with him oh yeah and he 2011 01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:07,700 brought me up to the sky brought me up 2012 01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:09,410 to the hue side where he being abducted 2013 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:12,290 right I was on the phone area I was on 2014 01:42:15,850 --> 01:42:13,730 the phone with him live on this show 2015 01:42:19,780 --> 01:42:15,860 actually he was on the phone for just a 2016 01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:19,790 minute with me yeah oh okay yeah in a 2017 01:42:27,550 --> 01:42:24,890 place so so yeah I I think the most the 2018 01:42:31,060 --> 01:42:27,560 case I'm most fence knitting is Travis 2019 01:42:34,060 --> 01:42:31,070 Welton trial I find this guy because he 2020 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:34,070 has so many documented is all well 2021 01:42:39,550 --> 01:42:36,770 documented by the policeman by the 2022 01:42:42,430 --> 01:42:39,560 Sheriff Department and and all his 2023 01:42:43,609 --> 01:42:42,440 witness honor or his body when he went 2024 01:42:46,009 --> 01:42:43,619 to when he 2025 01:42:50,899 --> 01:42:46,019 being abducted no people who saw it 2026 01:42:53,750 --> 01:42:50,909 there's no way this is this disk' is so 2027 01:42:56,810 --> 01:42:53,760 real to me and I actually talked to him 2028 01:43:00,409 --> 01:42:56,820 and the way he taught you realized he's 2029 01:43:02,779 --> 01:43:00,419 he's not he this actually happened to 2030 01:43:05,869 --> 01:43:02,789 him and he it does make a big change to 2031 01:43:09,379 --> 01:43:05,879 him and so yeah this is one of the case 2032 01:43:13,069 --> 01:43:09,389 I remember the most but so other cases 2033 01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:13,079 so many case I want to study well we're 2034 01:43:18,379 --> 01:43:16,289 at the end of our show and yeah I want 2035 01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:18,389 to thank you it's been a real pleasure 2036 01:43:25,279 --> 01:43:21,840 talking to you tonight thank you am i am 2037 01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:25,289 i doing okay he is audience and about 2038 01:43:29,779 --> 01:43:27,449 yes oh yeah yeah it's not a number thing 2039 01:43:33,379 --> 01:43:29,789 on the chatroom say nice thing so you're 2040 01:43:35,449 --> 01:43:33,389 all good okay if I say something which 2041 01:43:40,250 --> 01:43:35,459 make people don't understand that is 2042 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:40,260 probably Mel Gibson's for I'm kidding 2043 01:43:45,409 --> 01:43:44,010 yeah yeah all right thank you all right 2044 01:43:46,819 --> 01:43:45,419 I'll ask you I don't have a show 2045 01:43:48,709 --> 01:43:46,829 engineer helping me out tonight so I'm 2046 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:48,719 gonna ask you to hang up on skype and 2047 01:43:52,369 --> 01:43:50,489 thank you so much it's been a real 2048 01:43:54,979 --> 01:43:52,379 pleasure all right have a good one 2049 01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:54,989 thank you you too alright bye-bye now 2050 01:43:59,869 --> 01:43:57,090 alright everyone so that's it for our 2051 01:44:02,419 --> 01:43:59,879 show thank you so much for listening and 2052 01:44:03,649 --> 01:44:02,429 watching on YouTube and I want to thank 2053 01:44:06,469 --> 01:44:03,659 everyone that helps out behind the 2054 01:44:09,529 --> 01:44:06,479 scenes and we are going to be back next 2055 01:44:11,299 --> 01:44:09,539 week with Charlotte man she is her 2056 01:44:16,669 --> 01:44:11,309 grandfather was involved in the Cape 2057 01:44:19,250 --> 01:44:16,679 gara do case 1941 very strange case and 2058 01:44:21,229 --> 01:44:19,260 it's a very very interesting case so 2059 01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:21,239 come back with us and check that out 2060 01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:24,209 so again next week we'll be back and I 2061 01:44:28,279 --> 01:44:26,249 want to thank everyone also that 2062 01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:28,289 supports the show and remember to keep